[LSJ] Questions from Austin

Couple of things came up this week that I'd like to ask: Does Goratrix's special ability work on Allies? Methuselah A has Sanguinus Instruction on a Ventrue, which Clan Impersonated into a Daughter of Cacophony, giving that minion inferior Melpominee. Methuselah A then gives that Sanguinus Instruction to another Methuselah's vampire through a Succubus club. Does the new minion now have inferior Melpominee? Can a minion play Soul Stealing if they are going to torpor themselves? Which would you classify as a 'Nutpuncher' deck; a deck that has 5 disciplines, or a deck that has no hope of ousting it's prey by itself except if the prey laughs so hard they don't notice you pushing their pool into the blood bank? And finally, if one were to go to sleep during the second round of a sanctioned V:EKN tournament, having notified the judge of said nap, do they take a loss or are they omitted from that round. Said individual went on to play the 3rd round and receive a game win. Ethan Burrow - Prince of Austin saa...@yahoo.com http://whitestar.ddg.com/vtes/

In message <3c47c756...@news-server.austin.rr.com>, Ethan Burrow <saa...@yahoo.com> writes: >Couple of things came up this week that I'd like to ask: > >Does Goratrix's special ability work on Allies? Yes. You can steal blood from allies (e.g. Theft of Vitae). They lose life instead. See [6.4.5] and the example. (Stealing blood from an ally.) >Methuselah A has Sanguinus Instruction on a Ventrue, which Clan >Impersonated into a Daughter of Cacophony, giving that minion inferior >Melpominee. Methuselah A then gives that Sanguinus Instruction to >another Methuselah's vampire through a Succubus club. Does the new >minion now have inferior Melpominee? That wouldn't happen. This is analogous to [LSJ 20010719] http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3B601F1C%40MailAndNews.com&rnum=6 "Trading a master card on a minion via the Succubus Club won't move the Master Card - it just changes control." >Can a minion play Soul Stealing if they are going to torpor >themselves? At superior, sure. The only thing that stops (say) Taste of Vitae being played then is card text. >Which would you classify as a 'Nutpuncher' deck; a deck that has 5 >disciplines, or a deck that has no hope of ousting it's prey by itself >except if the prey laughs so hard they don't notice you pushing their >pool into the blood bank? I believe that should go to Derek Ray. >And finally, if one were to go to sleep during the second round of a >sanctioned V:EKN tournament, having notified the judge of said nap, do >they take a loss or are they omitted from that round. Said individual >went on to play the 3rd round and receive a game win. *giggle* Unfortunately, I fear this would be covered under 3.3 (Tardiness) - 15 minutes delay and you get a loss and an ejection. -- James Coupe "Never give in to them," she whispered. "No matter what PGP 0x5D623D5D EB they do or how important you feel it is to get their accep- D690ECD7A1FB457CA21 tance. Never kill part of yourself for them. Because other 3D7E668C3695D623D5D people will notice that part is missing before you do."

James Coupe wrote: > > In message <3c47c756...@news-server.austin.rr.com>, Ethan Burrow > <saa...@yahoo.com> writes: > >Couple of things came up this week that I'd like to ask: > > > >Does Goratrix's special ability work on Allies? > > Yes. You can steal blood from allies (e.g. Theft of Vitae). They lose > life instead. > > See [6.4.5] and the example. (Stealing blood from an ally.) Correct. > >Methuselah A has Sanguinus Instruction on a Ventrue, which Clan > >Impersonated into a Daughter of Cacophony, giving that minion inferior > >Melpominee. Methuselah A then gives that Sanguinus Instruction to > >another Methuselah's vampire through a Succubus club. Does the new > >minion now have inferior Melpominee? > > That wouldn't happen. > > This is analogous to [LSJ 20010719] > > http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3B601F1C%40MailAndNews.com&rnum=6 > > "Trading a master card on a minion via the Succubus Club won't move the > Master Card - it just changes control." Correct. You can move retainers and equipment that change control; others remain as they are. > >Can a minion play Soul Stealing if they are going to torpor > >themselves? > > At superior, sure. The only thing that stops (say) Taste of Vitae being > played then is card text. Correct. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

> > >Can a minion play Soul Stealing if they are going to torpor themselves? > > At superior, sure. The only thing that stops (say) Taste of Vitae being > > played then is card text. > Correct. OMG! Nec/For Force of Will/Day Op/Soul Stealing That would be so funny! Sorrow --- "Happiness sucks" -me

Sorrow wrote: > > > > >Can a minion play Soul Stealing if they are going to torpor themselves? > > > At superior, sure. The only thing that stops (say) Taste of Vitae being > > > played then is card text. > > Correct. > > OMG! Nec/For Force of Will/Day Op/Soul Stealing > That would be so funny! ? Which of your prey's vampires are you burning to enable Soul Stealing? [ quoted text not captured ]

> > OMG! Nec/For Force of Will/Day Op/Soul Stealing > > That would be so funny! > ? > Which of your prey's vampires are you burning to enable Soul Stealing? eep, never mind. Brain fart. Move along. Nothing to see here... Sorrow --- "I am Jack's wasted life." - Narrator

In message <hO0cIztm...@gratiano.zephyr.org.uk>, James Coupe <ja...@zephyr.org.uk> mumbled something about: >In message <3c47c756...@news-server.austin.rr.com>, Ethan Burrow ><saa...@yahoo.com> writes: >>Which would you classify as a 'Nutpuncher' deck; a deck that has 5 >>disciplines, or a deck that has no hope of ousting it's prey by itself >>except if the prey laughs so hard they don't notice you pushing their >>pool into the blood bank? > >I believe that should go to Derek Ray. You mean, which one would I classify as MORE of a nut-puncher? >>And finally, if one were to go to sleep during the second round of a >>sanctioned V:EKN tournament, having notified the judge of said nap, do >>they take a loss or are they omitted from that round. Said individual >>went on to play the 3rd round and receive a game win. > >*giggle* > >Unfortunately, I fear this would be covered under 3.3 (Tardiness) - 15 >minutes delay and you get a loss and an ejection. Clarification: If one were to drink VERY VERY HEAVILY the night before a sanctioned V:EKN tournament, while staying up until 7am and later playing pickup V:TES, what are the chances of an individual being forced to take an emergency second-round nap as a result? =) -- "There's no gray. There's just white that's got grubby." -- T.P.

"> >Unfortunately, I fear this would be covered under 3.3 (Tardiness) - 15 > >minutes delay and you get a loss and an ejection. > > Clarification: If one were to drink VERY VERY HEAVILY the night before > a sanctioned V:EKN tournament, while staying up until 7am and later > playing pickup V:TES, what are the chances of an individual being forced > to take an emergency second-round nap as a result? =) > I kind of let it slide since you had 2 very aggresive play groups that are about a 16 hour drive apart meeting half-way at the Jyhad house. Also he let me know, and was running on a grand total of about 55 minutes of sleep. You know sometimes a belgian waffle can do that to a man. :) XZ

>> Clarification: If one were to drink VERY VERY HEAVILY the night before >> a sanctioned V:EKN tournament, while staying up until 7am and later >> playing pickup V:TES, what are the chances of an individual being forced >> to take an emergency second-round nap as a result? =) > >I kind of let it slide since you had 2 very aggresive play groups that are >about a 16 hour drive apart meeting half-way at the Jyhad house. Also he >let me know, and was running on a grand total of about 55 minutes of sleep. >You know sometimes a belgian waffle can do that to a man. :) I can just imagine what would've happened if I had grits instead of the waffle. Oh wait, I mean....what if this *mystery* person had eaten grits instead of a waffle, I wonder how far *he* would've gotten in the tournament? [ quoted text not captured ]

"X_Zealot" <x_ze...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:<wQ528.13180$Y17.7...@e3500-atl2.usenetserver.com>... > You know sometimes a belgian waffle can do that to a man. :) Aha! Morning starch overload turns into afternoon crash. He should have gone with the sausage, eggs, bacon, ham, and onion scramble.

In message <cf597231.02011...@posting.google.com>, evilp...@yahoo.com (evil_poot_cat) mumbled something about: [ quoted text not captured ] Or the whateverthehellitwas-and-shrimp thermonuclear self-firebomb omelet (with extra red pepper and hot sauce =), guaranteed to leave anyone twitching for eight hours. [ quoted text not captured ]

> >> You know sometimes a belgian waffle can do that to a man. :) > > > >Aha! Morning starch overload turns into afternoon crash. He should > >have gone with the sausage, eggs, bacon, ham, and onion scramble. > > Or the whateverthehellitwas-and-shrimp thermonuclear self-firebomb > omelet (with extra red pepper and hot sauce =), guaranteed to leave > anyone twitching for eight hours. That would be Tasso sausage. Mmm.. Mmm.. Good XZ