rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

question for rulemongers

4 messages from 4 participants · 14 August 1996 – 20 August 1996
original thread on Google Groups

Rob Bush

Last night, we were playing and a rules question came up that we couldn't find an answer to. I'd appreciate it if anyone could help us out. The situation- Renegade garou armed with Ivory Bow and a Hawg maneuvers to long, hits vampire (causing aggravated damage) and sends the Kindred to torpor. The Question - Can the garou use his additional strike once the vampire is in torpor to do more aggro, possibly burning the vamp? Can he press once a vamp goes to torpor and continue to pound the snot out of his lifeless body? When the player tried this, everyone in the group said, "No, gangrel-boy, sending a vamp to torpor ends combat." He disagreed, and challenged us to find it in the rule book. Well, we were unable to find any definitive ruling, and we got into one of those classic discussions about how "if he's lying there in torpor right at my feet, why CAN'T I chew on his head?!" and so on. If any of you rules gurus (not Garous!) can point me to an official ruling that supports either argument, I'll consider it a major boon! Really, it was degenerating to the level of "well when he goes to torpor, the Methuselah shows up, backs the garou down and whisks him off to his haven" (!) Please help!!! (BTW- has anyone else noticed that when disputing rules V:tES players refer to V:tM as "the real world"? As in: "in the REAL WORLD, Rotschreck would mean that just as you pulled the trigger on your flamethrower, you realized that you had a backpack full of napalm. That freaked you out so much, you went into torpor." Am I the only one who finds that kinda weird? ;) Drink Deeply, R.Bush

The Corrupter

On Wed, 14 Aug 1996, Rob Bush wrote: > The Question - Can the garou use his additional strike once the > vampire is in torpor to do more aggro, possibly burning the vamp? Can > he press once a vamp goes to torpor and continue to pound the snot out > of his lifeless body? No. Once a vampire goes to torpor, combat ends. You might need LSJ for a reference... > (BTW- has anyone else noticed that when disputing rules V:tES players > refer to V:tM as "the real world"? > > As in: "in the REAL WORLD, Rotschreck would mean that just as you > pulled the trigger on your flamethrower, you realized that you had a > backpack full of napalm. That freaked you out so much, you went into > torpor." > Am I the only one who finds that kinda weird? ;) No. I find it kind of weird, but I catch myself doing it constantly. :) @ The Corrupter - Adrian Lee Sullivan @ GAT/CS/WS R+++* r(+)>++ # Gamer Coffee-Addict Scripter Author # C(+++)$ USX+$ N++ e+* @#$ Comments ? sull...@cslab.uwlax.edu $#@ tv(+)> X++ b++(+++) @#$ <http://cslab.uwlax.edu/~sulli_al/jyhad> $#@ PS+&-+ PE&-&++ z*+?

Shawn F. Carnes

Rob Bush wrote: > The situation- Renegade garou armed with Ivory Bow and a Hawg maneuvers to long, hits > vampire (causing aggravated damage) and sends the Kindred to torpor. > > The Question - Can the garou use his additional strike once the vampire is in torpor to > do more aggro, possibly burning the vamp? Can he press once a vamp goes to torpor and > continue to pound the snot out of his lifeless body? OFFICIAL: The moment a vampire goes to torpor, combat is over. Any additional strikes a minion may have had are ignored. Hope it helps! --Shawn F. Carnes Game Designer and Developer, Wizards of the Coast, Inc WotC NetRep for rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad ************************************************************* "We cannot rest, knowing that The Captain and Tennille are in good health!" --Milk and Cheese

L. Scott Johnson

The Corrupter <sull...@cslab.uwlax.edu> writes: >On Wed, 14 Aug 1996, Rob Bush wrote: >> The Question - Can the garou use his additional strike once the >> vampire is in torpor to do more aggro, possibly burning the vamp? Can >> he press once a vamp goes to torpor and continue to pound the snot out >> of his lifeless body? >No. Once a vampire goes to torpor, combat ends. >You might need LSJ for a reference... I live only to quote: Subject: Re: Newbie Questions From: aa...@cats.ucsc.edu (Thomas R Wylie) Date: 1995/11/17 Message-Id: <48hrir$7...@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> >6) Agg. Damage: I do aggrevated damage. During strike, I hit. Opponent >takes aggrevated damage. Can I now take additional strikes? Additional >Presses? No, and no. Combat ends during strike resolution. -- L. Scott Johnson (sjoh...@math.sc.edu) | A one-bit brain with a http://www.math.sc.edu/~sjohnson | parity error. Graphics Specialist and V:tES Rulemonger. |