rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

Ousting mid-action + block attempts

4 messages from 2 participants · 06 November 2008 – 22 January 2009
original thread on Google Groups

ira...@gmail.com

Hello LSJ, Say my prey has 1 pool, and a vamp with 0 blood and Fame. I attempt to bleed, my prey attempts to block, I play Psychomachia, sending the Famous vamp to torpor and ousting my prey. What happens? I believe the bleed fizzles, I don't get the edge, and I can't play Freak Drive. Consider the same setup, but instead of bleeding, I take an undirected action, and my prey is ousted mid-action. Does my new prey also get a chance to block? I think not, but I'm not really sure. Thanks, Ira

LSJ

ira...@gmail.com wrote: > Hello LSJ, > > Say my prey has 1 pool, and a vamp with 0 blood and Fame. I attempt > to bleed, my prey attempts to block, I play Psychomachia, sending the > Famous vamp to torpor and ousting my prey. What happens? I believe > the bleed fizzles, I don't get the edge, and I can't play Freak Drive. Correct. Well, assuming no one else bothers to block with Eagle's Sight or whatnot. (If someone blocks, you could get to play superior Freak Drive.) http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/ff49d05452dab442 > Consider the same setup, but instead of bleeding, I take an undirected > action, and my prey is ousted mid-action. Does my new prey also get a > chance to block? I think not, but I'm not really sure. He would if he hadn't yet gotten a chance to block. See the post linked from the post cited above, namely: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/e79b0034556c3d1b

ira...@gmail.com

On Nov 6, 3:38 am, LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote: > ira...@gmail.com wrote: > > Hello LSJ, > > > Say my prey has 1 pool, and a vamp with 0 blood and Fame. I attempt > > to bleed, my prey attempts to block, I play Psychomachia, sending the > > Famous vamp to torpor and ousting my prey. What happens? I believe > > the bleed fizzles, I don't get the edge, and I can't play Freak Drive. > > Correct. > > Well, assuming no one else bothers to block with Eagle's Sight or whatnot. > (If someone blocks, you could get to play superior Freak Drive.) > > http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/ff49... > > > Consider the same setup, but instead of bleeding, I take an undirected > > action, and my prey is ousted mid-action. Does my new prey also get a > > chance to block? I think not, but I'm not really sure. > > He would if he hadn't yet gotten a chance to block. > See the post linked from the post cited above, namely:http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/e79b... Thank you for all the helpful answers, and I'm sorry I didn't find this post on my own! Ira

LSJ

LSJ wrote: > ira...@gmail.com wrote: >> Say my prey has 1 pool, and a vamp with 0 blood and Fame. I attempt >> to bleed, my prey attempts to block, I play Psychomachia, sending the >> Famous vamp to torpor and ousting my prey. What happens? I believe >> the bleed fizzles, I don't get the edge, and I can't play Freak Drive. > > Correct. > > Well, assuming no one else bothers to block with Eagle's Sight or whatnot. > (If someone blocks, you could get to play superior Freak Drive.) > > http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/ff49d05452dab442 REVERSAL: The above bit on Freak Drive contradicts an earlier answer, and, in the interest of keeping things consistent and avoiding unnecessary complexity, we'll go with that earlier answer: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/cb909d524585a197 So, back to the example bleed above, yeah, the action would fizzle, but (assuming it reaches resolution unblocked) it is still successful (by definition of "successful action", namely: resolves unblocked). So you could still play Freak Drive at normal Fortitude to untap after a successful action that fizzles at resolution.