Moving a library card vampire into the crypt

Really, what happens? If I have an Embrace, Progeny, Creation Rites or other library card that designates a vampire and she is moved to the uncontrolled region via Banishment, Peace of Khetamon or a similar effect, what will be the effects of playing Memories of Mortality, Kaymakli Nightmares, Chain of Command or a similar effect so that the vampire would be moved into the crypt? -- Bye, Daneel

"Daneel" <dan...@eposta.hu> wrote in message news:opsib3io...@news.chello.hu... > Really, what happens? > > If I have an Embrace, Progeny, Creation Rites or other > library card that designates a vampire and she is moved > to the uncontrolled region via Banishment, Peace of > Khetamon or a similar effect, what will be the effects > of playing [Memory's Fading Glimpse], Kaymakli Nightmares, > Chain of Command or a similar effect so that the > vampire would be moved into the crypt? They go to the ash heap. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. V:TES homepage: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/ Though effective, appear to be ineffective -- Sun Tzu

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On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 09:51:57 -0500, LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote: > "Daneel" <dan...@eposta.hu> wrote in message > news:opsib3io...@news.chello.hu... >> Really, what happens? >> >> If I have an Embrace, Progeny, Creation Rites or other >> library card that designates a vampire and she is moved >> to the uncontrolled region via Banishment, Peace of >> Khetamon or a similar effect, what will be the effects >> of playing [Memory's Fading Glimpse], Kaymakli Nightmares, >> Chain of Command or a similar effect so that the >> vampire would be moved into the crypt? > > They go to the ash heap. Thanks for the reply! -- Bye, Daneel

"LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:<31640fF...@individual.net>... > "Daneel" <dan...@eposta.hu> wrote in message > news:opsib3io...@news.chello.hu... > > Really, what happens? > > > > If I have an Embrace, Progeny, Creation Rites or other > > library card that designates a vampire and she is moved > > to the uncontrolled region via Banishment, Peace of > > Khetamon or a similar effect, what will be the effects > > of playing [Memory's Fading Glimpse], Kaymakli Nightmares, > > Chain of Command or a similar effect so that the > > vampire would be moved into the crypt? > > They go to the ash heap. and why's that??? i.ex.: Third Tradition: Progeny [Jyhad:U, VTES:U, CE:U] Third Tradition: Progeny, The Cardtype: Action Cost: 1 blood Capacity: 1 Requires a ready <non-Sterile> prince or justicar. +1 stealth action. Put this card in play; *** it becomes a 1 capacity vampire ***. You may go through your library (shuffle afterward), ash heap or hand to find a Discipline card for this vampire. Move up to 2 blood from the acting vampire to this vampire. This vampire is not considered unique, cannot take any actions this turn, and is the same clan as the acting vampire. Banishment [DS:U2, FN:PS, CE:PTo/PV] Cardtype: Political Action Political Card - Worth 1 Vote. Called by any vampire at +1 stealth. Choose a younger ready vampire. Successful referendum means that the chosen vampire is moved to the uncontrolled region (place him or her face down). The vampire is uncontrolled. The vampire's blood counters, master cards and minion cards stay with that vampire, with any counters they have on them (they are out of play as long as the vampire remains uncontrolled). why the progeny go to ash heap??? the text say... put this card in play, it becomes a vampire... (no can play card as a vampire or else) and the banishment say Choose a younger ready vampire....

"Enrique San Mart?n" <es...@chile.com> wrote in message news:cafbc9c8.04120...@posting.google.com... > why the progeny go to ash heap??? the text say... put this card in > play, it becomes a vampire... (no can play card as a vampire or else) > and the banishment say Choose a younger ready vampire.... If the Embrace is Banished, it goes to the uncontrolled region, where it remains a vampire and can be affected as normal by things that affect vampires in the uncontrolled region (transfers, Govern the Unaligned, etc.) If it is then moved from the uncontrolled region to the crypt, it will be moved to the ash heap instead, since it cannot be in a crypt (library cards cannot be in a crypt and vice versa). [ quoted text not captured ]