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2008 VTES Awards - Results

22 messages from 17 participants · 11 March 2008 – 13 March 2008
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Charlotte By Night

The 2008 Nossies at www.CharlotteByNight.com are now complete. Thanks to everyone who took the time to vote. Here are the Results: 1. Best Card - Target Vitals 2. Best Vampire in a Leading Role - Nakhthorheb 3. Best Vampire in a Supporting Role - Carmen 4. Best Equipment - Camera Phone 5. Best Ally - Nocturn 6. Best Event - Narrow Minds 7. Best Art - Liquefy the Mortal Coil

coincoi...@hotmail.com

> 7. Best Art - Liquefy the Mortal Coil I didn't know so many people were in love with Avril Lavigne

preac...@gmx.at

On 11 Mrz., 17:13, coincoinmas...@hotmail.com wrote: > > 7. Best Art - Liquefy the Mortal Coil > > I didn't know so many people were in love with Avril Lavigne Heather Kreiter is in outstanding artist. Her artworks capture the vampiric nature of the game in most cases. Liquify the Mortal Coil looks just plain cool. Who is Avril Lavigne and what has that to do with the piece of art from Heather?

Meej

On Mar 11, 10:24 am, Charlotte By Night <ya...@yahoo.com> wrote: > 3. Best Vampire in a Supporting Role - Carmen Sure that's not "Best Vampire in a Supporting Undergarment" ? :-) - D.J.

Jozxyqk

[ quoted text not captured ] Avril Lavigne is a Canadian teen pop singer. Liquefy's artwork is based on this picture of her here: http://www.celebrity-scans.com/displayimage.php?album=38&pos=33

Orpheus

[ quoted text not captured ] I didn't know that ! Weird, I'd have thought WW would be more careful after the Camille Devereux issues... -- Orpheus, unofficial Shemti model.

jcrossn...@gmail.com

[ quoted text not captured ] That also. Seriously though, Carmen deserves the win here. Her blanket +1 stealth on equip actions is great in a variety of decks. Her discipline spread puts her squarely into any Tremere crypt that groups 4-5 will produce, and the auspex and dominate can get her slotted into a variety of funky Black Hand decks. I'm a little weirded out that Target: Vitals won the vote for best card. I think this has to do with the all too common obsession with combat, more than the actual merits of the card. T:V is certainly good, perhaps even very good, but I think there were several much stronger contenders for best library card of 2007. Jesse

Peter D Bakija

In article <318c46a6-153b-4dc6...@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, coincoi...@hotmail.com wrote: > I didn't know so many people were in love with Avril Lavigne No, no. You apparently didn't know that so many people were in love with seeing Avril Lavigne disintigrate into a pile of goo... Peter D Bakija pd...@lightlink.com http://www.lightlink.com/pdb6/vtes.html "Find hungry samurai." -The Old Man

coincoi...@hotmail.com

On 11 mar, 22:39, Peter D Bakija <p...@lightlink.com> wrote: > > No, no. You apparently didn't know that so many people were in love with > seeing Avril Lavigne disintigrate into a pile of goo... > > Peter D Bakija > p...@lightlink.comhttp://www.lightlink.com/pdb6/vtes.html > > "Find hungry samurai." > -The Old Man ^^

Teeka

On 11 mrt, 20:19, "Orpheus" <orpheus...@DEADSPAMfree.fr> wrote: > Jozxyqk wrote: > > Avril Lavigne is a Canadian teen pop singer. > > > Liquefy's artwork is based on this picture of her here: > >http://www.celebrity-scans.com/displayimage.php?album=38&pos=33 > DAMN! Now I don't like it anymore.. will never be able to play that card ever again without hearing "he was a skater boy, she said see you later boy".. in my head. God I hate her music. > I didn't know that ! Weird, I'd have thought WW would be more careful after > the Camille Devereux issues... > Indeed. But I think Avril will probably never know about it. She's too fake to actually like stuff with skulls on. Bet she never wears that ring at home. Arh! I'm going to play some real punk rock right away... Teeka

aahzma...@gmail.com

On Mar 11, 8:19 pm, "Orpheus" <orpheus...@DEADSPAMfree.fr> wrote: > Jozxyqk wrote: [ quoted text not captured ] Camille Devereux issues, I´ve never heard about that, can you tell me little more about it? :-)

Teeka

On 12 mrt, 14:19, aahzmandi...@gmail.com wrote: > Camille Devereux issues, I´ve never heard about that, can you tell me > little more about it? :-)- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven - > In short: The original "Camille Devereux" card from Jyhad featured art directly "based on" a photo from a well-known lingerie catalogue. Wizards of the Coast, who were publishing VTES at the time, got sued over it and changed the card to "Raven" with new art in the VTES base set (WW later combined these two as one single card in the 10th Ann. set). It has happened more often though, look for the 10 differences between the art for Hannibal from Sabbat War and this picture of David Bowie by Anton Corbijn: http://www.createbrand.ru/images/zap/image_2131.jpg Man, I bitch a lot about photochop, but these things don't say "artistic integrity" either. What's wrong with taking a picture of a friend in a similar position (if you like it so much) and taking that as a base for your piece instead of some other artist's work..

jcrossn...@gmail.com

> > > Liquefy's artwork is based on this picture of her here: > > >http://www.celebrity-scans.com/displayimage.php?album=38&pos=33 > > DAMN! Now I don't like it anymore.. will never be able to play that > card ever again without hearing "he was a skater boy, she said see you > later boy".. in my head. God I hate her music. Have you ever actually played Liquefy the Mortal Coil? Jesse

sul...@aol.com

On Mar 11, 12:36 pm, jcrossnicker...@gmail.com wrote: > I'm a little weirded out that Target: Vitals won the vote for best > card. I think this has to do with the all too common obsession with > combat, more than the actual merits of the card. T:V is certainly > good, perhaps even very good, but I think there were several much > stronger contenders for best library card of 2007. > > Jesse There are certainly limits* to the card which in my mind didn't make it an obviously better card than competitors, but its advantage over other cards I'd consider among the best in the last two sets is that it's game changing. All sorts of possibilities have been created that didn't exist before. That's an unusual feature in a card and one highly sought after. * For me, the fact that it's a combat card weakens its desirability rather than enhances it.

Peter D Bakija

On Mar 11, 3:36 pm, jcrossnicker...@gmail.com wrote: > I'm a little weirded out that Target: Vitals won the vote for best > card. I think this has to do with the all too common obsession with > combat, more than the actual merits of the card. T:V is certainly > good, perhaps even very good, but I think there were several much > stronger contenders for best library card of 2007. Yeah, I think folks are still vastly overestimating the usefulness of this card. I mean, yeah, ok, it is a pretty solid inclusion for most combat strategies, and it makes disciplineless combat a bunch more viable than it used to be, but it is really easy to avoid--any common combat defense foils it, any minimal damage prevention foils it, and then any two combat cards in hand foil it. I've been using it a lot recently in real life and JOL, and it does nothing other than cycle a card out of my hand far more often than not. Once and a while, it sticks and does some good damage, but if it is going to stick and do damage, any other combat was probably going to stick and do damage too. I think that, say, Veil the Leigons is far, far more useful in a grande sense than Target: Vitals. And I like trying to win with combat. -Peter

robert...@hotmail.com

On Mar 12, 9:13 am, Teeka <teeka_dra...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Man, I bitch a lot about photochop, but these things don't say > "artistic integrity" either. What's wrong with taking a picture of a > friend in a similar position (if you like it so much) and taking that > as a base for your piece instead of some other artist's work.. Well, for that matter (since we're talking about photochop and stolen art) Carmen's art is taken from a photo of a fairly well known lingerie model's work. I do not have the link to it but Kevin Mergen does (give it up, Kevin, KMJ can deal with it).

Churchy La Femme

[ quoted text not captured ] Whoops, that's Snelly, either way he can deal too.

robert...@hotmail.com

On Mar 13, 1:40 am, Churchy La Femme <lordportish...@hotmail.com> wrote: [ quoted text not captured ] Yeah, thanks.

Maegnar

On Mar 13, 10:40 am, Churchy La Femme <lordportish...@hotmail.com> wrote: [ quoted text not captured ] Talking about real-life models, I've always thought that Selene (! Tremere) was a reference to Kate Beckinsale's Selene in "Underworld" movie. Thou not sure if there was a real image that got photoshop'ed or not.

LSJ

Maegnar wrote: > I've always thought that Selene (! > Tremere) was a reference to Kate Beckinsale's Selene in "Underworld" > movie. Selena (not "Selene") appeared in The Beast Within (1994) and Prince of the City (1995). Underworld didn't come out until 2003.

Salem

[ quoted text not captured ] http://www.beautydestroyed.com/ although it seems to have just become a link to her myspace now, so you'll need a myspace login to check out the pics. Specifically, http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=137402444&albumID=958104&imageID=8269830 Looks like she knows about, and is ok with, the VTES card. -- salem (replace 'hotmail' with 'yahoo' to email)

Johannes Walch

LSJ schrieb: [ quoted text not captured ] And WW sued the "Underworld" creators (Sony?) instead of the other way round ;-)