rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

LSJ: The Oath on someone else's Taste of Vitae?

5 messages from 4 participants · 05 July 2010
original thread on Google Groups

OldFan

So - I did Google-fu on the web site and really didn't find a clear cut answer. Which may be because it's a dumb question, but here goes anyways: "Dear LSJ, Meth A and Meth B both have vampires in combat. One (or both) of the vampires play Taste of Vitae. Can I, as Meth C, play The Oath as a reaction card to put an oath counter on one of those 2 vampires, neither of which I control? Sincerely, gamer on crack in Ithaca, NY" My thinking being - the text on the Oath doesn't specify that Taste of Vitae must be played against one of your vampires (unlike the blood theft, which expressly DOES specify that). As a plain red/combat card, The Oath wouldn't have to do so - you only play red cards during your own vampires' combats (with a few exceptions that say so in their text box). But being playable as a reaction means that lack of text (along with the "or" that separates the taste of vitae from "steals blood from this vampire") has the "play as written/PaW" side of my gamer brain wondering. But that could be the crack talking.... The Oath combat reaction Play when a vampire gains blood from a Taste of Vitae or steals blood from this vampire. Put an oath counter on that vampire. This vampire may put another oath counter on that vampire as a (D) action. A vampire with 2 oath counters from this vampire cannot block or enter combat with this vampire. A vampire can play only one Oath each round.

The Lasombra

On Sun, 4 July 2010 21:14:52 -0700 (PDT), OldFan wrote: >So - I did Google-fu on the web site and really didn't find a clear >cut answer. Card text is pretty clear from here. Blood must be tasted or stolen from the vampire playing the card. > Meth A and Meth B both have vampires in combat. One (or both) >of the vampires play Taste of Vitae. Can I, as Meth C, play The Oath >as a reaction card to put an oath counter on one of those 2 vampires, >neither of which I control? No. Card text of first sentence of the card. >The Oath >combat >reaction >Play when a vampire gains blood from a Taste of Vitae or steals blood >from THIS VAMPIRE. Put an oath counter on that vampire. This vampire [ quoted text not captured ]

Haze

[ quoted text not captured ] ah, I see what you're trying to do here. I think you might be right, they're two different conditions, and taste of vitae isn't played "from" a vampire. however, even if that's true... rulebook states you can not play any minion cards other than combat cards during a combat, unless card text says otherwise. so just like "power of all" you can never play The Oath as a reaction during combat. too bad.

LSJ

On Jul 5, 2:06 am, Haze <headlessr...@gmail.com> wrote: > rulebook states you can not play any minion cards other than combat > cards during a combat, unless card text says otherwise. so just like > "power of all" you can never play The Oath as a reaction during > combat. too bad. Correct. Taste, being playable only in combat, means that The Oath would be played in combat (and could thus only be played by a combatant). Stealing blood may occur in combat (allowing The Oath to be played as a combat card) or outside of combat (allowing The Oath to be played as a reaction).

OldFan

[ quoted text not captured ] Thanks for the answers gentlemen - that's all I needed to know! (picks up pile of The Oath, and puts them back in the box of "these are useless cards") *whistling* :