rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

Red List + any Ally + Left for Dead

3 messages from 3 participants · 24 April 2008
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ira...@gmail.com

Hello LSJ, Say Ally A is Red List, and is rushed by Minion B. Minion B burns Ally A in combat, so Meth A plays Left for Dead. Is there a window where Trophies trigger? I believe the answer is no, because the Ally doesn't actually burn. Assuming no, the same turn, Minion C rushes Ally A, and then Ally A burns due to card text on Left for Dead. Do Trophies trigger now? I believe the answer is yes, because it was part of a D action. Thanks, Ira Left for Dead Master: out-of-turn. Only usable as an ally is burned in combat. Combat ends. Put this card on that ally; that ally is not burned. Put one life on the ally from the blood bank if he or she has no life. Tap the ally. If the ally with this card enters combat, he or she is burned. Burn this card instead of untapping the ally during his or her next untap phase. 1.6.2.3 Trophy: A trophy may be put into play using a master phase action (or can be retrieved as listed under "Red List" in section 11). It has no effect until it is moved to a vampire. When any vampire burns a Red List minion in combat or as a (D) action (including diablerie), the controller of the trophy may choose to move the trophy to that vampire. Any number of trophies in play may be moved to the vampire in this way (in addition to the single trophy that the vampire’s controller may retrieve from her library, ash heap or hand). Once placed on a vampire, a trophy cannot be moved again.

LSJ

ira...@gmail.com wrote: > Hello LSJ, > > Say Ally A is Red List, and is rushed by Minion B. Minion B burns > Ally A in combat, so Meth A plays Left for Dead. Is there a window > where Trophies trigger? I believe the answer is no, because the Ally > doesn't actually burn. Correct. "Instead" > Assuming no, the same turn, Minion C rushes Ally A, and then Ally A > burns due to card text on Left for Dead. Do Trophies trigger now? I > believe the answer is yes, because it was part of a D action. The answer is yes, because it was in combat. [ quoted text not captured ]

Salem

LSJ wrote: > ira...@gmail.com wrote: >> Hello LSJ, >> >> Say Ally A is Red List, and is rushed by Minion B. Minion B burns >> Ally A in combat, so Meth A plays Left for Dead. Is there a window >> where Trophies trigger? I believe the answer is no, because the Ally >> doesn't actually burn. > > Correct. "Instead" "Instead" doesn't actually appear in the relevant parts of the card text quoted, only when talking about whether the ally untaps or not. However, "that ally is not burned" does, which I assume pretty much covers it. :) >> >> Left for Dead >> Master: out-of-turn. Only usable as an ally is burned in combat. >> Combat ends. Put this card on that ally; that ally is not burned. Put >> one life on the ally from the blood bank if he or she has no life. Tap >> the ally. If the ally with this card enters combat, he or she is >> burned. Burn this card instead of untapping the ally during his or her >> next untap phase. >> -- salem (replace 'hotmail' with 'yahoo' to email)