KMW is uber-legitimate!

So, I see that the spoiler texts for Kindred Most Wanted are up on the White Wolf site. (www.white-wolf.com/vtes/index.php?line=Checklist_KindredMostWanted if you haven't seen it yet.) Yay! The only problem I have is that the ARDB update doesn't seem to be able to read the new .csv complete spoiler files. Something about the .csv having one more field than ARDB is expecting? I can't tell if this is an ARDB problem or a .csv-file problem (I wouldn't have thought KMW added any new fields to either type of card?). Help? Oh, I suppose I should submit this ARDB "bug" to Francois the prescribed way as well. I will do that now. :-) Josh the anarchs are revolting! but not as much as they used to be!

I'm currently writing a script to import the same CSV files into Monger to avoid having to manually do it each set...so I hope the CSV files don't really change much. ---------- Ethan Burrow - the pre/vic guy http://monger.vekn.org/

texasjusticar wrote: > I'm currently writing a script to import the same CSV files into Monger > to avoid having to manually do it each set...so I hope the CSV files > don't really change much. > As an aside, which spolier text files are the "official" ones. Is it the CSV which then generates the TXT and HTML? Or is it the TXT? Or is it the HTML? Regards, D

"quetzalcoatl" <da...@vega.id.au> wrote in message news:1109633084.9...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... [ quoted text not captured ] I believe they all ought to be equivalent. If they aren't, I expect the maintainer ought to be notified (vte...@white-wolf.com). :-) I always quote from the .txt file myself, I don't know if Scott does the same. Josh it's all in the text

"Joshua Duffin" <jtdu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:38hgr4F...@individual.net... > > Yay! The only problem I have is that the ARDB update doesn't seem to be > able to read the new .csv complete spoiler files. Something about the > .csv having one more field than ARDB is expecting? I can't tell if this > is an ARDB problem or a .csv-file problem (I wouldn't have thought KMW > added any new fields to either type of card?). Help? Might it be because we have a new clan? The ARDB isn't expecting the Abominations? -- Colin "Eryx" Goodman Samedi Primogen Cambridge UK http://www.geocities.com/eryx_uk/Cambridge_by_night.html

Joshua has written: >So, I see that the spoiler texts for Kindred Most Wanted are up on the >White Wolf site. >(www.white-wolf.com/vtes/index.php?line=Checklist_KindredMostWanted if >you haven't seen it yet.) where exactly did you get the csv file? the file at the address http://www.white-wolf.com/downloads.php?category_id=38 is still the old one Andrea

Joshua Duffin wrote: > So, I see that the spoiler texts for Kindred Most Wanted are up on the > White Wolf site. > (www.white-wolf.com/vtes/index.php?line=Checklist_KindredMostWanted if > you haven't seen it yet.) > > Yay! The only problem I have is that the ARDB update doesn't seem to be > able to read the new .csv complete spoiler files. Something about the > ..csv having one more field than ARDB is expecting? I can't tell if this > is an ARDB problem or a .csv-file problem (I wouldn't have thought KMW > added any new fields to either type of card?). Help? > > Oh, I suppose I should submit this ARDB "bug" to Francois the prescribed > way as well. I will do that now. :-) There's an "Artist" column now. If an application isn't looking at the header row, it may get confused. Deleting the Artist column should restore the CSV files to the arrangement expected by an application that read the CSV files before. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

texasjusticar wrote: > I'm currently writing a script to import the same CSV files into Monger > to avoid having to manually do it each set...so I hope the CSV files > don't really change much. So long as you're parsing the header row (and then keying off of the position of known columns, like "Clan"), you'll be fine. [ quoted text not captured ]

Joshua Duffin wrote: >>As an aside, which spolier text files are the "official" ones. Is it >>the CSV which then generates the TXT and HTML? Or is it the TXT? Or is >>it the HTML? > > I believe they all ought to be equivalent. If they aren't, I expect the > maintainer ought to be notified (vte...@white-wolf.com). :-) > > I always quote from the .txt file myself, I don't know if Scott does the > same. They are all equivalent -- derived from the "true source" data file I maintain. If they aren't equivalent, it is due to an error in the program that translates the true source and yes, I ought to be notified (via email, preferably, or via this newsgroup). I usually quote from true source, actually. [ quoted text not captured ]

> I usually quote from true source, actually. Much like "the one ring" I presume? Ankur

<snip> Francois has actually solved this problem this afternoon :-) I guess he will soon post the location of the latest version. However although the automated database update is now working, the .csv file downloaded from white wolf site seems to be incomplete at least 3 errors have been reported - Count Germaine Advanced is not noted as "Advanced" in the vtescrypt.csv file - Sebastian Goulet is not present at all (neither base nor advanced) - Rotschreck is missing too (maybe it will bring some happiness to some but still :-) ) hope this helps Mochuda

additional strikes : missing Name: Ambrosio Luis Monçada, Plenipotentiary Name: Béatrice L'Angou Name: Célèste Lamontagne Name: Céleste, The Voice of a Secret Name: Corine Marcón Name: Count Germaine (advanced noted as base) Name: Día de los Muertos Name: Dónal O'Connor Name: Gaël Pilet Name: The Ghouls of Plaza Morería Name: Rötschreck Name: San Nicolás de los Servitas Name: Sébastian Goulet (base + adv)

Are you sure that they aren't there just in a different position due to accent issues? BTW could you give me the full address of the new csv file? THX Andrea

> Are you sure that they aren't there just in a different position due to > accent issues? > That theory works for everyone but Count Germaine (Adv).

"An experiment verifies a theory if, to obtain the results, you will not discard more than 50% of the data" (Murphy law applied to experimental physics) Andrea

"Mochuda" <mochuda@NO_arfe.net_SPAM> wrote in message news:4224965e$0$28383$79c1...@nan-newsreader-07.noos.net... [ quoted text not captured ] Every card with "extraascii" characters was omitted, apparently. All the advanced cards were convoluted with their base counterparts. The latter has been fixed. I'm working on the former. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. V:TES homepage: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/ Though effective, appear to be ineffective -- Sun Tzu

> where exactly did you get the csv file? > the file at the address > http://www.white-wolf.com/downloads.php?category_id=38 > is still the old one Did anyone get around to mentioning where this file was now?

"LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:38jnd6F...@individual.net... > "Mochuda" <mochuda@NO_arfe.net_SPAM> wrote in message news:4224965e$0$28383$79c1...@nan-newsreader-07.noos.net... > > additional strikes : missing > > > > Name: Ambrosio Luis Monçada, Plenipotentiary > > Name: Béatrice L'Angou > > Name: Célèste Lamontagne > > Name: Céleste, The Voice of a Secret > > Name: Corine Marcón > > Name: Count Germaine (advanced noted as base) > > Name: Día de los Muertos > > Name: Dónal O'Connor > > Name: Gaël Pilet > > Name: The Ghouls of Plaza Morería > > Name: Rötschreck > > Name: San Nicolás de los Servitas > > Name: Sébastian Goulet (base + adv) > > Every card with "extraascii" characters was omitted, > apparently. > > All the advanced cards were convoluted with their > base counterparts. > > The latter has been fixed. > > I'm working on the former. OK. The extraasciily-named cards are in. Let me know if you find any other absentees (or merges or whatever). [ quoted text not captured ]

<hawaii_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1109699119....@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... [ quoted text not captured ] Sorry, I neglected to point out before that the really truly current .txt file and .csv file are not on the "regular" White Wolf VTES site yet, but are on the "old" VTES pages. (Because LSJ can update the old ones himself, but not the new ones.) Go to http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/Downloads.html to find both files for download, or the direct link for the .csv zip-file is http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/downloads/vtescsv.zip. Josh finds the hidden track

> OK. The extraasciily-named cards are in. > > Let me know if you find any other absentees (or merges > or whatever). really thank you for your solicitude it seems ok to me except for Count Germaine adv who is still incomplete the adv .csv line looks like "Count Germaine ","Brujah","","4","8","obf CEL FOR POT PRE","Advanced. etc etc whereas i guess it should be "Count Germaine ","Brujah","Advanced","4","8","obf CEL FOR POT PRE","Advanced. etc etc all others advanced look ok so maybe it's just a miss in the original database you have Mochuda

"Mochuda" <mochuda@NO_arfe.net_SPAM> wrote in message news:4224b3f1$0$28380$79c1...@nan-newsreader-07.noos.net... [ quoted text not captured ] Count Germaine is now fixed, as well. [ quoted text not captured ]

sorry but again i do not find the file with the fixed list the one under http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/Downloads.html is still the unfixed one Andrea

<andrea....@infinito.it> wrote in message news:1109709156.7...@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > sorry but again i do not find the file with the fixed list > the one under > http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/Downloads.html is still the unfixed one That page links the most current CSV zip file. That zip file contains a .csv with a 1:38 PM timestamp (and dated March 1) -- the most recent one. Perhaps you need to refresh or clear your cache? [ quoted text not captured ]

i did verify it before posting. the one i took are dated march 1 at 1.38.12 on the crypt file i find 790 vampires Catherine du Bois Celine Chevalier Chandler Hungerford on the library Gestalt Ghoul Escort Ghoul Retainer Ghouled Street Thug Ghouled Giant's Blood Andrea

<andrea....@infinito.it> wrote in message news:1109711105.7...@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... [ quoted text not captured ] ? I don't understand your sentence. Someone noted that some (non-ascii-named) vampires were missing. Those have been added. Errors I don't know of are likely to be uncorrected. [ quoted text not captured ]

sorry about that i was trying to say that i still do not see the ghouls or celeste (as an example) if i download the csv zip that has, in fact, a timestamp 1.38 Andrea

[ quoted text not captured ] Grrr. Odd. I fixed a bug related to the characters. It fixed some, but apparently not most. Back to the drawing board. Thanks for the indulgence. :-) -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. [ quoted text not captured ]

LSJ wrote: > andrea....@infinito.it wrote: > >> sorry about that >> i was trying to say that i still do not see the ghouls or celeste (as >> an example) if i download the csv zip that has, in fact, a timestamp >> 1.38 >> Andrea > > > Grrr. Odd. I fixed a bug related to the characters. It fixed some, > but apparently not most. > > Back to the drawing board. > > Thanks for the indulgence. :-) Feh. Silly silent errors. :-) Try it now. [ quoted text not captured ]

sebastian goulet advanced seems missing minor glitches: anastasdi zagreb is written as anastaz(space)di bang knah have two -- Andrea did i say today "thank you very much for all your constant work".

andrea....@infinito.it wrote: > sebastian goulet advanced seems missing Gah! Fixed (again). > minor glitches: > anastasdi zagreb is written as anastaz(space)di > bang knah have two -- These are corrections. They are intended. > Andrea > did i say today "thank you very much for all your constant work". [ quoted text not captured ]

Thanks! seems perfect to me now Andrea

andrea....@infinito.it wrote: [ quoted text not captured ] Hooray. I'll still be waiting for the other shoe to drop, though. :-) [ quoted text not captured ]

LSJ wrote: > andrea....@infinito.it wrote: > > > Thanks! > > seems perfect to me now > > Andrea > > Hooray. I'll still be waiting for the other shoe to drop, though. :-) > sorry to bother again. on the library csv file i have the following 87 cards that are cut at char 255 when opened in excel. Other cards that are longer are just fine. if i open the file the text is complete. i've no idea why is that. maybe some hidden character? anyone else having this issue? Andrea Anarch Secession Anima Gathering Antediluvian Awakening Aranthebes, The Immortal Armor of Terra Art's Traumatic Essence Bauble Black Hand Ritual Blessing of Chaos Blessing of the Name Blood Clots Bujo Call the Great Beast Cardinal Benediction Chain of Command Charming Lobby Chill of Oblivion Clio's Kiss Clotho's Gift Compel the Spirit Concordance Condemnation: Betrayed Condemnation: Doomed Condemnation: Languid Condemnation: Mute Contagion Corruption Create Gargoyle Descent into Darkness Distant Friend Dive into Madness Divine Sign Dual Form Ecstatic Agony Edge Vitiation Emergency Powers Engling Fury Erosion Ex Nihilo Fatuus Mastery Frozen Object Gather Gear Up Grasp the Ghostly Guard Duty Haunt Island of Yiaros Khabar: Glory Kiss of Lachesis Lifeless Tongues Masochism Mind of a Killer Movement of the Slow Body Muricia's Call Nose of the Hound Nosferatu Bestial Petra Resonance Political Struggle Psychic Projection Rapid Healing Rastacourere Recure of the Homeland Reformation Regeneration Renewed Vigor Resilient Mind Resurrection Rutor's Hand Seeds of Corruption Shadow Twin Shepherd's Innocence Sibyl's Tongue Siphon Songs of the Distant Vitae Soul Painting Status Perfectus, The Summoning, The Thanks for the Donation Trainer Triole's Revenge Undue Influence Unwholesome Bond Victim of Habit Waters of Duat Web of Knives Recruit Wildebeest, The Zillah's Tears

andrea....@infinito.it wrote: > on the library csv file i have the following 87 cards that are cut at > char 255 when opened in excel. > Other cards that are longer are just fine. > if i open the file the text is complete. > i've no idea why is that. maybe some hidden character? > anyone else having this issue? It's an Excel issue most likely. Every field is cut at 255 characters (or whatever number). [ quoted text not captured ]

LSJ wrote: > andrea....@infinito.it wrote: > > on the library csv file i have the following 87 cards that are cut at > > char 255 when opened in excel. > > Other cards that are longer are just fine. > > if i open the file the text is complete. > > i've no idea why is that. maybe some hidden character? > > anyone else having this issue? > > It's an Excel issue most likely. > Every field is cut at 255 characters (or whatever number). i found it excel cuts at 255 every description starting with "+" (it is so 'smart' that understand that those are formulas and not text...) thanks anyway Andrea

<andrea....@infinito.it> wrote in message news:1109861902....@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... [ quoted text not captured ] Ah. Thanks for the detective work. As a fix, you could use a text editor and global search and replace "+ with " + (put a space between the quotes and the plusses). I tried the excel "I'm not a formula" trick of starting with a single quote (using "'+ as the replacement string), but Excel imported that verbatim -- not the worst thing, but still not as clean as it should be). -- LSJ (vtesr...@TRAPwhite-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep (Remove spam trap to reply). [ quoted text not captured ]

tried already the latter and as i did not like it used the former ;-) Andrea

but then again the best could be substitute in the text editor with "'+ import in excel substitute '+ with + and excel accepts a line longer than 255 as if typed!!!! Andrea