Toreador Grand Ball and Corruption Q

Here is a wierd one. Player 1 is almost finishing corrupting Vamp A controled by Player 2. Player 2 plays a TGB and names the almost corrupted Vamp A to be the tapped Vampire. Player 1 then gains control of Vamp A the next turn. Does the TGB stick around now that the two Vampires have seperate controlers? By card text there is nothing that says it wouldn't stick around but I was just wondering what other people have to say about this.

In article <TZI08.5329$if4.3...@news3.calgary.shaw.ca>, [ quoted text not captured ] Interesting. For reference, here's the card text: "Put this card in play. Choose two ready Toreador you control. The first Toreador cannot be blocked unless he or she attempts to bleed. The second Toreador does not untap as normal during the untap phase; tap the second Toreador. This card may be burned by any minion as a (D) action; Nosferatu get -1 stealth when attempting that action." You name the 'host' and the 'guest' of the Ball when you play the Ball; future absence of the 'host' does not impede the 'guest' from being unblockable -- this has been explored in the case of the host's demise (burned) or fatigue (torpor), as well as for Masquerade Balls (Clan Impersonation such that the 'host' is no longer Toreador). Given those precedents, I'd say the host's change of employer doesn't affect the party at all -- the host remains unable to untap during the untap phase, and the guest remains unblockable on non-bleed actions. gomi -- Blood, guts, guns, cuts Knives, lives, wives, nuns, sluts

[ quoted text not captured ] Yes. TGB doesn't care one iota about the fate of either of the vampires. Burn them, trade them, Banish them, etc. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

go...@panix.com (Gomi no Sensei) wrote in message news:<a1vp42$m6q$1...@panix3.panix.com>... > Interesting. For reference, here's the card text: > > "Put this card in play. Choose two ready Toreador you control. The first > Toreador cannot be blocked unless he or she attempts to bleed. The second > Toreador does not untap as normal during the untap phase; tap the second > Toreador. This card may be burned by any minion as a (D) action; Nosferatu > get -1 stealth when attempting that action." > > You name the 'host' and the 'guest' of the Ball when you play the Ball; > future absence of the 'host' does not impede the 'guest' from being > unblockable -- this has been explored in the case of the host's demise > (burned) or fatigue (torpor), as well as for Masquerade Balls (Clan > Impersonation such that the 'host' is no longer Toreador). > > Given those precedents, I'd say the host's change of employer doesn't affect > the party at all -- the host remains unable to untap during the untap phase, > and the guest remains unblockable on non-bleed actions. Intersting indeed... I can now think that golconda-ing one's own host, sacrificing the host to khobar towers... hmmm... be nice if I had multiple copies of these cards or I'd slap a deck together with them... ~SV