rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

Azaneals blood storm and rules question

7 messages from 5 participants · 20 November 2009 – 23 November 2009
original thread on Google Groups

Asnek

Deck Name : Azaneals bloodstorm Author : Asnek Description : This deck is using idea that you block with azaneal and then play bloodstorm with other embraces and becomings to keep azaneal untaped. Crypt (12 vampires) Capacity min: 1 max: 7 average: 4.33333 ------------------------------------------------------------ 5x Azaneal 7 DAI OBF OBT pre tha Baali:4 1x Maldavis 4 AUS for pre Caitiff:3 1x David Morgan, The 3 aus pot Malkavian:3 1x Martin Franckel 3 AUS tha Tremere:3 1x Almiro Suarez 2 aus Tremere:3 1x Nicholas Chang 2 aus !Toreador:3 1x Piotr Andreikov 2 aus Tzimisce:3 1x Feo Ramos 1 aus Pander:3 Library (90 cards) ------------------------------------------------------------ Action (20) 5x Anima Gathering 8x Becoming, The 3x Embrace, The 2x Magic of the Smith 2x Summoning, The Ally (1) 1x Mylan Horseed (Goblin) Equipment (3) 1x Helicopter 1x Kaymakli Fragment 1x Sniper Rifle Event (1) 1x Anthelios, The Red Star Master (28) 10x Auspex 2x Blood Doll 1x Direct Intervention 2x Fortitude 2x Parthenon, The 3x Path of Evil Revelations 1x Smiling Jack, The Anarch 1x Sudden Reversal 2x Tribute to the Master 1x Vast Wealth 2x Vessel 1x Wash Reaction (37) 15x Bloodstorm of Chorazin 2x Enhanced Senses 2x Fillip 4x Forced Awakening 2x My Enemy's Enemy 4x On the Qui Vive 3x Telepathic Counter 5x Telepathic Misdirection Bloodstorm of Chorazin Type: Reaction Requires: Baali Only usable when a Baali successfully blocks an ally or a younger vampire. Tap this Baali and end the action (with no combat). This Baali inflicts 1 unpreventable damage on the acting minion and each of his or her retainers. Burn option. As we got here small argument about this card i want to clarify if it really works how we thought. If Baali A blocks the action and another Baali B can play Bloodstorm. card text indicates that it's possible as there is no said> Only usable when THIS Baali succesfully blocks... question is if it will work this way: Azaneal blocks and embrace (Baali of course) will play blood storm and become tapped (per card text) and as the action is ended per card text Azaneal do not tap. otherwise this deck will need small reconstruction to increase untaps...

Brum

[ quoted text not captured ] After a block the Blocking Minion always taps, even if the action doesn't resolve, e.g. without combat. Unless stated otherwise, of course. Example: on blocker's side there's Obedience, o acting's side there's Change of Target. Tiago

cthulukitty

Asnek wrote: > As we got here small argument about this card i want to clarify if it > really works how we thought. > If Baali A blocks the action and another Baali B can play Bloodstorm. > card text indicates that it's possible as there is no said > Only > usable when THIS Baali succesfully blocks... > question is if it will work this way: I'm fairly certain that the card doesn't do that. It is odd that Bloodstorm simply reads "a Baali" when all the similar cards I looked for (eg. Obedience, Voice of Madness, Shattered Mirror, Mental Maze) read "this vampire". This does to some extent seem to suggest that your interpretation works, and one could certainly parse the sentence that way in standard English. Unfortunately, a lot of VTES cards have confusing and/or inconsistent text, and this is simply an example of that. > Azaneal blocks and embrace (Baali of course) will play blood storm and > become tapped (per card text) and as the action is ended per card text > Azaneal do not tap. otherwise this deck will need small reconstruction > to increase untaps... This is moot if the card can't be played in the manner you describe. Even if you can, however, Azaneal taps, since that is an effect of blocking successfully. "Tap this Baali" is simply reminder text; you would have to tap even if the card didn't say so. Jesse

Wilsoros

Bloodstorm of Chorazin Type: Reaction Requires: Baali Only usable when a Baali successfully blocks an ally or a younger vampire. Tap this Baali and end the action (with no combat). This Baali inflicts 1 unpreventable damage on the acting minion and each of his or her retainers. Burn option. Well if Azneal blocks, he can satisfy the "Only usable when a Baali successfully blocks and ally or a younger vampire." The card doesn't specify that you need to tap the blocking Baali. So I think unless the card is clarified, it works the way the deck Author says.

LSJ

[ quoted text not captured ] It's played by the blocking Baali.

Wilsoros

I should search before I post http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/browse_thread/thread/6f1439c26fd59100/01239e3c7dcc1f08?lnk=gst&q=bloodstorm+lsj#01239e3c7dcc1f08 says that the blocking minion plays it.

Asnek

[ quoted text not captured ] > It's played by the blocking Baali.- Skryť citovaný text - > > - Zobraziť citovaný text - Great now i know that this idea will nto work :D bad for me but that means i still have to figure out a working deck that wil be using becomings :D