On Thu, 13 Dec 2001 19:08:41 GMT, Derek Ray <lor...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Use Larry or Mark (SAN/for/pot with intercept special) to attempt to
>block. When someone increases the stealth to 2, play your Gestalt.
>Select the following vampires:
>
>Larry/Mark (with SAN)
Why would I play with two circles? Larry is from the Chicago Circle,
Mark from the Torrance Circle. I don't think playing with two circles
would be worth it, since most BB cards involge BBs from the same
circle. Have you taken this into your thoughts?
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Tommy Engvik | to...@tragisk.com | www.tragisk.com
"Tommy Engvik" <to...@tragisk.com> wrote in message
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I think he meant to pick either Larry or Mark, depending on which
circle you're using, and use them as in the example. Not both
at the same time.
You can easily add KRCG/London E.S./etc to the example, probably
on Larry or Mark, for more stackable intercept. You end up
screwed by Elder Impersonation, but that's gonna be hard to
avoid in any Gestalt-using situation.
I'm not sure serious intercept is a good idea for the Brothers;
Gestalt is a handy card but expensive in blood and hoseable,
and the non-discipline stuff is expensive in pool, actions, or
both. Sticking to proactive things may be more convenient.
(That said, I do have a few Wakes and a couple Gestalts in my
first try at a Brothers deck, but intercept is not a major
focus.)
Josh
will be a monster
In message <5h7i1u80e9hnmc61q...@4ax.com>,
Tommy Engvik <to...@tragisk.com> mumbled something about:
>On Thu, 13 Dec 2001 19:08:41 GMT, Derek Ray <lor...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>Use Larry or Mark (SAN/for/pot with intercept special) to attempt to
^^
note this
>>block. When someone increases the stealth to 2, play your Gestalt.
>>Select the following vampires:
>>
>>Larry/Mark (with SAN)
Here, the "/" also means "or", since it is impossible to select vampires
from two different circles with Gestalt (pesky card text).
>Why would I play with two circles? Larry is from the Chicago Circle,
>Mark from the Torrance Circle. I don't think playing with two circles
>would be worth it, since most BB cards involge BBs from the same
>circle. Have you taken this into your thoughts?
This would exactly be why you would use Larry OR Mark, and not both.
Whichever circle you've put in your crypt will determine which of the
two vampires you use. However, this doesn't change that they both have
SAN and a +intercept special, and are both deserving of mention.
(Of course, I could've said just "Use Larry", and some half-wit would
have popped up and said "What about Mark?")
--
Derek
...Vampire Squirrel has come to bite your nuts!
On Thu, 13 Dec 2001 16:50:13 -0500, "Joshua Duffin" <duff...@bls.gov>
wrote:
>I think he meant to pick either Larry or Mark, depending on which
>circle you're using, and use them as in the example. Not both
>at the same time.
I look forward to the time when I'm able to build a deck only
consisting of BB Torrance vamps.
>You can easily add KRCG/London E.S./etc to the example, probably
>on Larry or Mark, for more stackable intercept. You end up
>screwed by Elder Impersonation, but that's gonna be hard to
>avoid in any Gestalt-using situation.
AOL.
>I'm not sure serious intercept is a good idea for the Brothers;
>Gestalt is a handy card but expensive in blood and hoseable,
>and the non-discipline stuff is expensive in pool, actions, or
>both. Sticking to proactive things may be more convenient.
>(That said, I do have a few Wakes and a couple Gestalts in my
>first try at a Brothers deck, but intercept is not a major
>focus.)
Yes, Ambush/Bum's Rush/Haven Uncovered would be the strategy.
One thing I'm experiencing with BBs is that they run out of blood
really fast. Lots of Unwholesome Bond (or The Hungry Coyte, Festivo
and so on) are almost mandatory.
>Josh
>
>will be a monster
...and hopefully look at my deck ;)
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On Thu, 13 Dec 2001 22:01:55 GMT, Derek Ray <lor...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>In message <5h7i1u80e9hnmc61q...@4ax.com>,
>Tommy Engvik <to...@tragisk.com> mumbled something about:
>>>On Thu, 13 Dec 2001 19:08:41 GMT, Derek Ray <lor...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>Use Larry or Mark (SAN/for/pot with intercept special) to attempt to> ^^
> note this
You pointed at Larry. Don't you mean "or"?
>>>block. When someone increases the stealth to 2, play your Gestalt.
>>>Select the following vampires:
>>>
>>>Larry/Mark (with SAN)>
>Here, the "/" also means "or", since it is impossible to select vampires
>from two different circles with Gestalt (pesky card text).
>>>Why would I play with two circles? Larry is from the Chicago Circle,
>>Mark from the Torrance Circle. I don't think playing with two circles
>>would be worth it, since most BB cards involge BBs from the same
>>circle. Have you taken this into your thoughts?>
>This would exactly be why you would use Larry OR Mark, and not both.
>
>Whichever circle you've put in your crypt will determine which of the
>two vampires you use. However, this doesn't change that they both have
>SAN and a +intercept special, and are both deserving of mention.
>
>(Of course, I could've said just "Use Larry", and some half-wit would
>have popped up and said "What about Mark?")
Right. I'm sorry about the inconvenience. Now, to something completely
different: Two Gestalt card are currently going for about ten dollars
on Dragonzeye Games on Ebay
(http://www.ebaystores.com/dragonzeyegames). Whohoo!
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What intercept card are the Blood Brothers going to use? The have
Sanguinus, Potence and Fortitune, not excactly the disciplines known
for their remarkable intercept capabilities.
Of course, one could use locations giving intercept, but that's not
enough.
Any thoughts?
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Tommy Engvik wrote:
>
> What intercept card are the Blood Brothers going to use? The have
> Sanguinus, Potence and Fortitune, not excactly the disciplines known
> for their remarkable intercept capabilities.
> Of course, one could use locations giving intercept, but that's not
> enough.
> Any thoughts?
Name: Gestalt
Cardtype: Reaction
Discipline: Sanguinus
Choose X ready Blood Brothers you control who belong to the same circle as this reacting vampire (including this vampire). Each chosen vampire must burn a blood, or this card has no effect.
[san] +X intercept.
[SAN] +X intercept, and this vampire may play cards as if he or she possessed all of the chosen Blood Brothers' Disciplines for the remainder of the action.
Elder Intervention / Pack Tactics
--
LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc.
Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules:
http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/
In message <j1uh1uk2trr2d9nut...@4ax.com>,
Tommy Engvik <to...@tragisk.com> mumbled something about:
>What intercept card are the Blood Brothers going to use? The have>Sanguinus, Potence and Fortitune, not excactly the disciplines known
>for their remarkable intercept capabilities.
Gestalt: Reaction, Sanguinus
Choose X ready Blood Brothers you control who belong to the same circle
as this reacting vampire (including this vampire). Each chosen vampire
must burn a blood or this card has no effect.
[san]: +X intercept.
[SAN]: +X intercept. This vampire may play cards as if he or she
possesed all of the chosen Blood Brothers' disciplines for the remainder
of the action.
>Of course, one could use locations giving intercept, but that's not
>enough.
>Any thoughts?
Use Larry or Mark (SAN/for/pot with intercept special) to attempt to
block. When someone increases the stealth to 2, play your Gestalt.
Select the following vampires:
Larry/Mark (with SAN)
another with POT
another with FOR
That will give you +4 intercept, enough to forestall a vote called with
superior Forgotten Labyrinth. And you'll have a vampire in combat with
all superiors, who can summarily beat the hell out of your opponent.
Use Brother's Blood as necessary to spread any damage around, or just
take it all yourself and Taste of Vitae.
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Tommy wrote:
>>What intercept card are the Blood Brothers going to use? The have
Sanguinus, Potence and Fortitune, not excactly the disciplines known
for their remarkable intercept capabilities.>>
For the love of G'Quan--why do the Blood Brothers want intercept?
They have three disciplines:
-Potence: Used to beat people up.
-Fortitude: Used to keep you from getting beat up when you are beating people
up.
-Sanqui-tastico: Used to get into fights, get additional strikes, and generally
beat people up.
The Blood Brothers don't *need* intercept. They should be killing anyone they
would ever want to intercept before they take actions. They are made to kill.
Use them to kill.
Intercept. Pah.
Barring that, there is always Sport Bike, Mr. Winthrop, 3 different intercept
providing locations, Elder Intervention/Pack Tactics, and the San card that,
well, gives you intercept.
Peter D Bakija
PD...@aol.com
http://www.geocities.com/bakija6
"...and the only person I can stand to be around
is a neutered vampire who cheats at kitten poker!"
-Buffy
On 13 Dec 2001 22:20:47 GMT, pd...@aol.comANTISPAM (Peter D Bakija)
wrote:
>Barring that, there is always Sport Bike, Mr. Winthrop, 3 different intercept
>providing locations, Elder Intervention/Pack Tactics, and the San card that,
>well, gives you intercept.
Thank you.
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On Thu, 13 Dec 2001 13:58:43 -0500, LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com>
wrote:
<Tommy: BB intercept?>
<LSJ:>
>Name: Gestalt
>Cardtype: Reaction
>Discipline: Sanguinus
>Choose X ready Blood Brothers you control who belong to the same circle
>as this reacting vampire (including this vampire). Each chosen vampire
> must burn a blood, or this card has no effect.
>[san] +X intercept.
>[SAN] +X intercept, and this vampire may play cards as if he or she
>possessed all of the chosen Blood Brothers' Disciplines for the
>remainder of the action.
You forgot the "Rare" bit ;)
Anyway, I'm picturing lots of cool BB decks, with blood floating all
over the place.
>Elder Intervention / Pack Tactics
Only against bleeds, but I see your point.
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In message <om9i1usaib84500th...@4ax.com>, Tommy Engvik
<to...@tragisk.com> writes:
>>>>Use Larry or Mark (SAN/for/pot with intercept special) to attempt to>> ^^
>> note this>
>You pointed at Larry. Don't you mean "or"?
He did. Your post appears to have moved them.
I'm guessing your using a proportional font. Usenet posts are most
usually formatted for a non-proportional font - that is, where each
letter takes up the same space, in a grid, effectively - in such
instances.
(For reasons behind this: Try formatting something in one font, then try
changing font and font-size three or four times)
--
James Coupe PGP 0x5D623D5D It's been a long road, getting from there to here
EBD690ECD7A1FB457CA213D7E It's been a long time, and my time is finally near
668C3695D623D5D I will see my dream come alive at last, I will touch the sky
And they're not gonna hold me down no more, no they're not gonna change my mind
In message <v79i1uspokjupqg7r...@4ax.com>,
Tommy Engvik <to...@tragisk.com> mumbled something about:
>I look forward to the time when I'm able to build a deck only>consisting of BB Torrance vamps.
You can! :D
Crypt: (12 cards, Min: 24, Max: 24, Avg: 6.00)
----------------------------------------------
3x Truman dom FOR pot SAN 6, Blood Brother
2x Mark for obf pot SAN 6, Blood Brother, Bishop
2x Karl FOR POT pre san 6, Blood Brother
2x Jack cel for pot san 6, Blood Brother
3x Ilse for POT pro SAN 6, Blood Brother
You'll generally get 3 different vamps in your opening crypt, and
occasionally 4. You should always see either Truman OR Ilse, meaning
you'll have SAN/POT or SAN/FOR, depending. If you're doing something
that needs one or the other at superior, I might shift 4x/2x to one of
them.
>>You can easily add KRCG/London E.S./etc to the example, probably
>>on Larry or Mark, for more stackable intercept. You end up
>>screwed by Elder Impersonation, but that's gonna be hard to
>>avoid in any Gestalt-using situation.>
>AOL.
...sucks. (What does this abbreviation stand for? =)
--
"Grod come smash THAT vampire now."
Tommy Engvik <to...@tragisk.com> wrote in message news:<rb6i1u0s4qursj6ui...@4ax.com>...
> On Thu, 13 Dec 2001 13:58:43 -0500, LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com>
> wrote:> You forgot the "Rare" bit ;)
> Anyway, I'm picturing lots of cool BB decks, with blood floating all
> over the place.
Anyhow, I just saw an interesting BB deck that (nearly) ousted a
vote/bloat deck... Course it didn't have enough Walk of caines, but,
you know... it was thrown together at the last second... But yeah.
there's a BB terrence circle that has a +1 intercept vs. bleed, and
there's always sport bikes (freek drive) and Elder Intervention...
Christ... its not like they don't have prevention or blood gain...
Keep playing with those new BloodLines Cards. Lets change the
metagame!
~SV
Tommy Engvik <to...@tragisk.com> wrote in message news:<5h7i1u80e9hnmc61q...@4ax.com>...
>
> Why would I play with two circles? Larry is from the Chicago Circle,
> Mark from the Torrance Circle. I don't think playing with two circles
> would be worth it, since most BB cards involge BBs from the same
> circle. Have you taken this into your thoughts?
Who needs San when you have Pot and For for Caine's Sake!
~SV
On Fri, 14 Dec 2001 00:27:03 GMT, Derek Ray <lor...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Crypt: (12 cards, Min: 24, Max: 24, Avg: 6.00)
Excactly 6, eh? ;)
>You'll generally get 3 different vamps in your opening crypt, and
>occasionally 4. You should always see either Truman OR Ilse, meaning
>you'll have SAN/POT or SAN/FOR, depending. If you're doing something
>that needs one or the other at superior, I might shift 4x/2x to one of
>them.
Yeah. Man, BBs are going to be fun :)
>>>You can easily add KRCG/London E.S./etc to the example, probably
>>>on Larry or Mark, for more stackable intercept. You end up
>>>screwed by Elder Impersonation, but that's gonna be hard to
>>>avoid in any Gestalt-using situation.>>
>>AOL.>
>...sucks. (What does this abbreviation stand for? =)
When AOL users heard about newsgroups, they bombarded a lot of groups
with stupid comments, such as "Me too", when replying to something.
That's why you can say "AOL", which means "Me too" or "I agree".
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On Thu, 13 Dec 2001 23:36:12 +0000, James Coupe <ja...@zephyr.org.uk>
wrote:
>He did. Your post appears to have moved them.
Bad post! Sit! Stay!
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In message <j52k1ugej1cl5lno6...@4ax.com>,
Tommy Engvik <to...@tragisk.com> mumbled something about:
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er, 'k. AOLers did a LOT of stupid things when AOL first opened access
to USENET (referring to a newsgroup as a "bboard", "SIG", "Notesfile",
"mailing list", pestering people about the Green Golfball .GIF, and many
other tales), actually... and some of those things were also commonly
seen around September as well.
It may not be your best choice to pick those letters for "I agree", or
in fact for anything positive. =)
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In message <rm4k1ukrq3b4qfutc...@4ax.com>, Derek Ray
<lor...@yahoo.com> writes:
>It may not be your best choice to pick those letters for "I agree", or
>in fact for anything positive. =)
It's a fairly widely used abbreviation on many parts of the 'net I
inhabit. Sometimes, it's done in HTML/XML style.
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James Coupe wrote:
>
> In message <rm4k1ukrq3b4qfutc...@4ax.com>, Derek Ray
> <lor...@yahoo.com> writes:
> >It may not be your best choice to pick those letters for "I agree", or
> >in fact for anything positive. =)
>
> It's a fairly widely used abbreviation on many parts of the 'net I
> inhabit. Sometimes, it's done in HTML/XML style.
Been reading newsgroups for over 10 years, including for the whole time
AOL has joined Usenet and their denizens befuddled and annoyed the old-timers.
This is first time I've ever heard about anyone using "AOL" to mean, "me too".
AOLers did a lot of stupid things. I wouldn't think of "me too" as their
signature stupidity-in-action. If anything, it was trying to inundate
discussion newsgroups with blatant advertising: something that was apparently
just fine on whatever kinds of discussion groups or bulletin AOL must have
had. Man, it torqued a lot of people off when they tried it on Usenet!
Fred
Tommy Engvik <to...@tragisk.com> wrote in message news:<v79i1uspokjupqg7r...@4ax.com>...
> One thing I'm experiencing with BBs is that they run out of blood
> really fast. Lots of Unwholesome Bond (or The Hungry Coyte, Festivo
> and so on) are almost mandatory.
Taste of Vitae is also a good choice...
Xian