Question for LSJ about Martyr's Resiliance

Martyr's Resiliance is "Only usable by an untapped vampire not involved in the current combat". Can it be played by an untapped vampire in torpor?

"Emmit Svenson" <emmits...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:75bdf7ed.01122...@posting.google.com... > Martyr's Resiliance is "Only usable by an untapped vampire not > involved in the current combat". Can it be played by an untapped > vampire in torpor? no. Reaction cards can't be played by a vampire in torpor unless specific card text says so. eg : Crimson Fury.

"Reyda" <re...@noos.fr> wrote in message news:a0dvd6$lti$2...@hadron.noos.net... [ quoted text not captured ] Well, you are right about reactions...but martyr's resiliance is a combat card. And since I don't think there is any provision from playing combat cards in torpor, you should be able to play it as long as you are untapped with aus+for. There is however an errata that says: "Action modifiers cannot be played by a vampire in torpor unless that vampire is the acting minion" I can fore see that being expanded to include combat cards etc, but that would be up to LSJ? -- Aaron The Nosferatu Stuff

"The Nosferatu Stuff" <roans...@REMOVE.yahoo.com> wrote in message news:JmxW7.20058$g96.3...@typhoon.mw.mediaone.net... [ quoted text not captured ] As the rules stand it seems to be legal. There's nothing in the rules that states that a minion in torpor cannot play combat cards. Similar applies to Infection, which has the same template as MR. I would take it that the intent is either that both are playable by a minion in torpor. Either that or the torpor rules need to be changed. Without trying to be too picky, the action modifiers thing mentioned above is not actually errata ( any more? ) it's in the rules.

> As the rules stand it seems to be legal. There's nothing in the rules that > states that a minion in torpor cannot play combat cards. Similar applies to > Infection, which has the same template as MR. True, but it seems quite unlogical that a minion cannot enter combat because of its torporized state, but he can play combat cards... LSJ ? Max

"Max" <hot...@virgilio.it> wrote in message news:549ed483.01122...@posting.google.com... [ quoted text not captured ] I'm not saying it makes sense just that under the current rules it's possible. If this is not the designers intent then the Torpor rules need to be changed.

[ quoted text not captured ] Yes. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/