rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

Jimmy Dunn\Self Contesting

3 messages from 3 participants · 02 July 2003
original thread on Google Groups

Glen Robinson

Was having a bit of disagreement about this with a friend.. thought that it might be worth checking out If you have a Jimmy Dunn: Sabbat: Jimmy Dunn cannot be contested. If a second Jimmy comes into play, burn the first Jimmy in play instead of contesting him. and you (want to) bring out another... I figured that since the first burns (without any contesting), this wouldn't contravene the 'no self-contesting' rule. True/False? Pahoehoe!

LSJ

[ quoted text not captured ] Correct. If it cannot be contested, then it won't ever run afoul of the rule prohibiting self-contesting. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

Peter D Bakija

Glen Robinson wrote: > I figured that since the first burns (without any contesting), this wouldn't > contravene the 'no self-contesting' rule. True/False? Sort of. You are not allowed to play cards that contest with other cards you control, this is true. But you are allowed to influence out a vampire you alreadyhave in play, as once enough pool counters are on a vampire, it automatically comes into play at the end of the influence phase, and there is no prohibition on placing blood counters on vampires you already have in play. Thus, if you accidentally (or intentionally) put X blood counters on an uncontrolled vampire that you already have in play, where X is that vampire's capacity, it automatically comes into play. But they don't contest. The second vampire to come out is just immediately burned, and you loose the vampire and all the blood. Jimmy Dunn works differently, however. When he comes into play, he burns the *other* copy of Jimmy Dunn in play. As there is nothing that prevents you from influencing out a vampire you already control, Jimmy Dunn or no, you can always influence out a second Jimmy Dunn (or a second any vampire). Because it is Jimmy Dunn, however, good things happen (your first Jimmy is burned, which might be good, as he might be in torpor or have been Sensory Deprived or something). If, on the other hand, it was, like, Lithrac or someone, you'd feel dumb. Peter D Bakija PD...@bigplanet.com http://www.myplanet.net/pdb6 "My health is failing me, so I flip on the television, and watch sad movies and look for sad, sick people like me." -Tegan and Sara