Lucita question re: lamsobra

the symbol on this card is a 'splodge' with a crown in it. there is no lasombra clan symbol anyway. and it states she is an independent vampire. so why (according to previous threads0 can she play lasombra cards?? please help here cos i've lost something about this card regards anam

[ quoted text not captured ] The Crown-on-wax-seal is the new Lasombra symbol. Since she is Lasombra (even if she is Independent), she can play Lasombra cards. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

> > the symbol on this card is a 'splodge' with a crown in it. there is no > > lasombra clan symbol anyway. and it states she is an independent > > vampire. so why (according to previous threads0 can she play lasombra > > cards?? > > please help here cos i've lost something about this card > The Crown-on-wax-seal is the new Lasombra symbol. > Since she is Lasombra (even if she is Independent), she can play Lasombra cards. And while she can play Lasombra specific cards, since she is Independant, she cannot play Sabba specific cards. (further clarification for the original poster) Sorrow --- "This is my costume. I'm a homicidal maniac. They look just like everyone else." -- Wednesday Addams

>The Crown-on-wax-seal is the new Lasombra symbol. >Since she is Lasombra (even if she is Independent), she can play Lasombra cards. yippee!!! that stops a row. we just couldn't figure it out and it was leading to one of us sleeping in the garage! many thanks anam

In article <3985b32c...@nntp.netcomuk.co.uk>, stubby <an...@netcomuk.co.uk> writes [ quoted text not captured ] *ponders which Lasombra cards would be good with her* Mm..... a political struggle/Bum's Rush Trap fortitude combat deck.... -- James Coupe

James Coupe <ve...@zephyr.org.uk> wrote in message news:zIgf6tA2...@cooling-towers.freeserve.co.uk... [ quoted text not captured ] Delicate -- and Covenant of Blood would be more efficient. But definitely rocks as fortitude combat - could also go well with Euro-Brujah, since she has cel. And the card to use with her? Camarilla Vitae Slave. Boost that pesky minor pot to POT. BTW --> the whole 'Lucita as Lasombra antitribu' controversy? She's NOT. A Lasombra antitribu would be a Camarilla Lasombra. Lucita is Independent. She rejects both Sabbat and Camarilla. Mark Shanewood V:EKN Prince of Minneapolis (and Lucita fan - although I _really_ want to see Fatima...)

In article <3985fea7$0$8312$7f89...@newsreader.visi.com>, Mark & Kathy ShaneWood <shan...@tcinternet.net> writes >> Mm..... a political struggle/Bum's Rush Trap fortitude combat deck.... >> -- > >Delicate True, but funny. You could add pot and cel to taste, but the Fortitude- Trap idea is a nice one when played. >-- and Covenant of Blood would be more efficient. Ah yes, but Political Struggle offers more votes to you. >But definitely rocks as fortitude combat - could also go well with >Euro-Brujah, since she has cel. Unfortunately, you wouldn't be able to use Covenant of Blood with that. And if you have all of them in the deck, it could be difficult. However, a Jimmy Dunn, Lucita, Donal, Constanza, Aurora, Vittorio Giovanni based deck. Dominate, Potence, Fortitude, and some Celerity. That could be fun. And we could use Happy Families for card ratios too. :) (Oh, and since I just got a request for it, I'm looking at doing an end- user version of happy families - probably a downloadable Java applet, or something.) >And the card to use with her? Camarilla Vitae Slave. Boost that pesky >minor pot to POT. Useful, but not such a major problem. The minor potence allows Immortal Grapple when needed, and if you see an opponent who can't S:CE, the trap/fortitude comes to the fore. It even does when you see an opponent who can S:CE, since it combines just fine with IG. I have to say I'm very happy with the implementation. Given that Lucita could have ended up as a hideously over-powered Combat Wombat, she has a nice edge without being obscene, and a nice selection of disciplines. -- James Coupe

James Coupe <ve...@zephyr.org.uk> wrote in message news:rfmpfsHs...@obeah.demon.co.uk... > In article <3985fea7$0$8312$7f89...@newsreader.visi.com>, Mark & Kathy > ShaneWood <shan...@tcinternet.net> writes > >> Mm..... a political struggle/Bum's Rush Trap fortitude combat deck.... > >> -- > > > >Delicate > > True, but funny. You could add pot and cel to taste, but the Fortitude- > Trap idea is a nice one when played. > > >-- and Covenant of Blood would be more efficient. > > Ah yes, but Political Struggle offers more votes to you. > Presuming that (a) there are votes on the table you want to rush and (b) you have a _use_ for votes. I've tried the Political Struggle rush vote deck. Argh. > >But definitely rocks as fortitude combat - could also go well with > >Euro-Brujah, since she has cel. > > Unfortunately, you wouldn't be able to use Covenant of Blood with that. > And if you have all of them in the deck, it could be difficult. > > However, a Jimmy Dunn, Lucita, Donal, Constanza, Aurora, Vittorio > Giovanni based deck. Dominate, Potence, Fortitude, and some Celerity. > That could be fun. And we could use Happy Families for card ratios too. > :) > Yah, that was sort of what I was thinking. > (Oh, and since I just got a request for it, I'm looking at doing an end- > user version of happy families - probably a downloadable Java applet, or > something.) > spiffy! > >And the card to use with her? Camarilla Vitae Slave. Boost that pesky > >minor pot to POT. > > Useful, but not such a major problem. The minor potence allows Immortal > Grapple when needed, and if you see an opponent who can't S:CE, the > trap/fortitude comes to the fore. It even does when you see an opponent > who can S:CE, since it combines just fine with IG. The major POT allows superior Decapitate, though. Always nice to have as an option. And most of the rest of that crypt you suggested above have POT rather than pot. > > I have to say I'm very happy with the implementation. Given that Lucita > could have ended up as a hideously over-powered Combat Wombat, she has a > nice edge without being obscene, and a nice selection of disciplines. > I can only hope we see more of this quality! Although James H and I (among others) might both suggest that a few more Beast-level Combat Wombats wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing.

In article <39879a21$0$8319$7f89...@newsreader.visi.com>, Mark & Kathy ShaneWood <shan...@tcinternet.net> writes >> Ah yes, but Political Struggle offers more votes to you. >> >Presuming that (a) there are votes on the table you want to rush and (b) you >have a _use_ for votes. I've tried the Political Struggle rush vote deck. >Argh. Erm, there are always reasons to have votes - stopping other people passing theirs (if needs be), capitalising on Bribes, bargaining chips. However, it would be a very specific metagame where you could rely on solely Political Struggle. But two or three in a deck wouldn't necessarily be a bad idea. >> (Oh, and since I just got a request for it, I'm looking at doing an end- >> user version of happy families - probably a downloadable Java applet, or >> something.) >> >spiffy! Well, I was looking at some compiled Perl/TK - but the ActiveState PerlApp program needs Windows NT, which I don't have. Oh well, time to learn how to program in something else. (I refuse to use JavaScript, even though I could carry on implementing it with regexps.) >> >And the card to use with her? Camarilla Vitae Slave. Boost that pesky >> >minor pot to POT. >> >> Useful, but not such a major problem. The minor potence allows Immortal >> Grapple when needed, and if you see an opponent who can't S:CE, the >> trap/fortitude comes to the fore. It even does when you see an opponent >> who can S:CE, since it combines just fine with IG. > >The major POT allows superior Decapitate, though. I find it really quite expensive, for what it is. Playable, yes, but, well, 2 blood is a lot. > Always nice to have as an >option. And most of the rest of that crypt you suggested above have POT >rather than pot. Oh, true. Whilst POT is, clearly, better than pot, I don't think it's *that* much better, and not something I'd entirely miss. >I can only hope we see more of this quality! Although James H and I (among >others) might both suggest that a few more Beast-level Combat Wombats >wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing. I'd rather have good, playable combat cards for multiple strategies than relying on having to do a combat deck with specific vampires - if, for no other reason, to avoid contesting the vampires. -- James Coupe