rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

[VTES][PR] Rules Team Rulings: 10/17/95

4 messages from 4 participants · 24 October 1995 – 30 October 1995
original thread on Google Groups

Hunter Johnson

In article <46hbcj$5...@cello.gina.calstate.edu>, rmu...@cello.gina.calstate.edu (Raymond Mulford) writes: |> Scoundrel <scou...@inlink.com> wrote: |> |> >Can you guys tell me what's the deal with Camille Devereaux? I understand |> >she has been replaced by a new Vampire named "Raven." What was wrong with |> >Camille? Why is she the only vampire to be replaced? Are any of the other |> >Vampire cards changed in VTES? |> |> The rumor around here is that the pose is a rip-off of Steph Seymour's |> pose in a Victora's Secret catalogue. |> |> Raven has identical stats and abilities so it was just a cosmetic |> change. Actually, a cosmetic change would have involved changing only the artwork. As it stands, both Raven and Camille can be in play without being contested. Hunter -- J. Hunter Johnson jhun...@lexis-nexis.com (Lexis-Nexis, Dayton OH) "Never blame the audience. If you blame the audience, not only have you failed, you have failed to learn from your mistakes." -- Carlo Mazzone-Clemente

J. Hunter Johnson

In article <DH14L...@pgh.nauticom.net>, Andy <al...@pgh.nauticom.net> wrote: >OK, so it's just one of those dumb and unexplained things WOTC likes to >do with their card mix, just to annoy and/or confuse us players, such as >removing all those game-balancing moxes and loti. :-) Anyway, it's nice >being able to have effectively two Camille's in play at once. Note that you can't have both in your tournament deck's crypt, since the card backs will be different. (Even though WotC mollified the Jyhad players by saying that card back differences wouldn't have any impact on gameplay :-/) Hunter -- J. Hunter Johnson jhun...@io.com (Illuminati Online) "What if your woman leaves you?" "That's what holosuites are for." -- Dax and Quark discussing relationships

Andy

J. Hunter Johnson (jhun...@io.com) wrote: : In article <DH14L...@pgh.nauticom.net>, Andy <al...@pgh.nauticom.net> wrote: : >OK, so it's just one of those dumb and unexplained things WOTC likes to : >do with their card mix, just to annoy and/or confuse us players, such as : >removing all those game-balancing moxes and loti. :-) Anyway, it's nice : >being able to have effectively two Camille's in play at once. : Note that you can't have both in your tournament deck's crypt, since : the card backs will be different. (Even though WotC mollified the : Jyhad players by saying that card back differences wouldn't have any : impact on gameplay :-/) Wait a minute, haven't WOTC and the DC been saying all along that card backs are irrelevent and both varieties can be used in the same deck? Sure, it's dumb, and, yes, it was stupid of them to change the name in the first place, but it is legal. BTW, one of my friends suggested the only good way I've heard of for solving the card backs problem: plastic sleeves with one opaque side, so that the card back would be hidden. What does everybody else think of this? : Hunter : -- : J. Hunter Johnson : jhun...@io.com (Illuminati Online) : "What if your woman leaves you?" "That's what holosuites are for." : -- Dax and Quark discussing relationships -- Andrew Lynn al...@pgh.nauticom.net "When people fear ideas, they love Control" -OTE

Thomas R Wylie

Andy <al...@pgh.nauticom.net> wrote: >: |> >Can you guys tell me what's the deal with Camille Devereaux?... >: |> The rumor around here is that the pose is a rip-off of Steph Seymour's >: |> pose in a Victora's Secret catalogue. >I also noticed that Camille is a dead ringer for Steph. As for replacing >her because of this, it seems rather dumb/silly to me. What, are they >expecting to get sued?... Whether we're *expecting* to be sued or not isn't the point. The point is that we could be sued, so we have to correct the mistake. We can't very well go around insist that people not trample over our copyrights and such without respecting others'. Tom Wylie rec.games.trading-cards.* Network Representative for aa...@cats.ucsc.edu Wizards of the Coast, Inc.