rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

All minons sleep in daytime?

7 messages from 6 participants · 01 March 1995 – 04 March 1995
original thread on Google Groups

L. Scott Johnson

dged...@mtu.edu (Daniel G. Edelman) writes: >why can't non-vampire minons (i.e. allies) block a day operation >do all minons sleep in the day??? >why not allow any non-vampire minon to block a day operation >where all damage sone to the offending vampire is aggrivated? Mostly because its a card game. Realism is sometimes sacrificed for simplicity. Stating all of the different possibilities that each card presents would be a chore to do and a chore to keep track of.

Alec Habig

[ quoted text not captured ] but in this case, it would not be difficult at all. Just have Day Operations refer to Kindred instead of Minions. Alec -- Alec Habig, Indiana University High Energy Astrophysics aha...@bigbang.astro.indiana.edu http://astrowww.astro.indiana.edu/personnel/ahabig/ Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than my guns.

James Bowes

[ quoted text not captured ] If it helps, you can look at it this way: The minions are occupied during the night protecting the vamps at home in their coffins, so they are not out and about disrupting other actions. _OR_ The minions would not be expecting any sane vamp to be wandering around in the sunlight trying to do something, when they know their gonna be hurt by it.(NO COMMENT as to those loony Malks. No one can predict the insane.) _OR_ Think of the Meth.'s turn as one day and one night, and the vamps and minions are acting at different times. Anyways, you probably get the point. Thr rules are for simplicity, and one comes up with reasons to provide plausability. Remy leb...@u.washington.edu | It's not my fault! Gambit at the U.W. | Laugh it up fuzzball! | - Han Solo "I don't want the world, I just want your half." "Life is like a riddle, and I'm really stumped."

Daniel G. Edelman

why can't non-vampire minons (i.e. allies) block a day operation do all minons sleep in the day??? why not allow any non-vampire minon to block a day operation where all damage sone to the offending vampire is aggrivated? dan edelman

Daniel G. Edelman

CurtAdams (curt...@aol.com) wrote: : <someone else wrote this but i deleted who it was...sorry:) : >but in this case, it would not be difficult at all. Just have Day : Operations : >refer to Kindred instead of Minions. : : Well, there are other complications. Could a vampire then play Fast : Reaction? And if the card set grows, that would probably introduce more : potential conflicts which would have to be handled with rules on the : specific cards. If you consequently needed a change to Day Op, you'd be : in trouble - you can't change the cards is circulation. : a vampire couldn't play a fast reaction because they would be reacting to combat they could not have entered. to make it clear the text could read that no other kindred may enter in combat with the acting vampire for the duration of the action this still alows for allies to block and other reaction cards to be played against the action (e.g. defelction, dread gaze, etc.) this would also make the sup. fortitude version of the card useful as opposed to a novel concept. dan edelman

CurtAdams

aha...@bigbang.astro.indiana.edu (Alec Habig) writes: >L. Scott Johnson <sjoh...@math.scarolina.edu> wrote: >>dged...@mtu.edu (Daniel G. Edelman) writes: >>>why can't non-vampire minons (i.e. allies) block a day operation >>>do all minons sleep in the day??? >>>why not allow any non-vampire minon to block a day operation >>>where all damage sone to the offending vampire is aggrivated? >> >>Mostly because its a card game. Realism is sometimes sacrificed for >>simplicity. Stating all of the different possibilities that each card >>presents would be a chore to do and a chore to keep track of. >but in this case, it would not be difficult at all. Just have Day Operations >refer to Kindred instead of Minions. Well, there are other complications. Could a vampire then play Fast Reaction? And if the card set grows, that would probably introduce more potential conflicts which would have to be handled with rules on the specific cards. If you consequently needed a change to Day Op, you'd be in trouble - you can't change the cards is circulation. Curt Adams (curt...@aol.com)

Sylvia R Mendelsohn

Daniel G. Edelman (dged...@mtu.edu) wrote: : why can't non-vampire minons (i.e. allies) block a day operation [ quoted text not captured ] : dan edelman -- I always thought it was metaphorical...the vampire isn't actually acting during the day--fortitude or no fortitude, a court trial takes way too long to sit through, and as for a Bum's Rush...no way that's happening in broad daylight. What it means is that the acting vampire is taking terrible risks that no other vampire, sane or otherwise, would dare do...and as for a human, he'd not even imagine it feasible. That kind of risk and persistence long after the results of your folly have proven fatal is totally unstoppable, and unavailable to vampires without the toughness (mental as well as physical, at least in the card game) that Fortitude provides. :x :x M. le B. Marius Pontmercy