rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

Aye question...

3 messages from 3 participants · 21 March 2006
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kula...@gmail.com

Before using the damn card, I want to know if it's how I think it'll work... Aye Cardtype: Master Master: trifle. Put this card on a Laibon. This Laibon may tap this card to cancel a Frenzy card played on him or her as it is played. This Laibon may burn a blood and tap three of his or her Aye to be able to play reaction cards and attempt to block as if untapped for the current action. If this Laibon burns a minion, equipment, or location in play, he or she burns one Aye. Burn this card if this Laibon has more Orun and Aye than his or her capacity Could I burn a blood, and not tap 3 aye? or just tap 3 aye and not burn a blood? or do I have to do both. I know there will be no effect unless I do both. Just making sure if it would read may burn a blood, and may tap 3 ayes. That's the way I would read it. I used the example of a wake and babble to justify my interpretation of it. Wake reads, This reacting vampire can play reaction cards and attempt to block as though untapped until the current action is concluded. Doesn't have to do both, can do 1 or the other. Babble doesn't require to have the chosen equipment in play to burn it. But I'm just making sure... (Deck idea is a restricted vitae hunt deck, so I need to HAVE TO hunt so I can gain 4+ blood from the source vampire. Excellent thirst, clan cards that increase hunts, and earth feeder hunt action. Course master cards that increase hunting. Minion taps-a-plenty of course )

Robert Scythe

kula...@gmail.com wrote: > Before using the damn card, I want to know if it's how I think it'll > work... > > Aye > Cardtype: Master > > Master: trifle. > Put this card on a Laibon. This Laibon may tap this card to cancel a > Frenzy card played on him or her as it is played. This Laibon may burn > a blood and tap three of his or her Aye to be able to play reaction > cards and attempt to block as if untapped for the current action. If > this Laibon burns a minion, equipment, or location in play, he or she > burns one Aye. Burn this card if this Laibon has more Orun and Aye than > his or her capacity > > Could I burn a blood, and not tap 3 aye? or just tap 3 aye and not > burn a blood? or do I have to do both. I know there will be no effect > unless I do both. > > Just making sure if it would read may burn a blood, and may tap 3 ayes. > That's the way I would read it. I used the example of a wake and > babble to justify my interpretation of it. Wake reads, This reacting > vampire can play reaction cards and attempt to block as though untapped > until the current action is concluded. Doesn't have to do both, can do > 1 or the other. Babble doesn't require to have the chosen equipment in > play to burn it. But I'm just making sure... I do not believe that this is going to work the way you want. Aye states specifically "may burn a blood AND tap three ....Aye". its the cost for the effect. Wake offers you a choice after you have played it, one, the other or both. When Bauble (not Babble) is burned it will also burn the chosen equipment, if the chosen equipment is not there to burn then that effect fizzles. Why bother with Aye anyway? Just use more Taps, wouldn't you rather have that blood (even if it's only one) in your pool instead of just burnt?

LSJ

Robert Scythe wrote: > kula...@gmail.com wrote: > > Could I burn a blood, and not tap 3 aye? or just tap 3 aye and not > > burn a blood? or do I have to do both. I know there will be no effect > > unless I do both. > > > > Just making sure if it would read may burn a blood, and may tap 3 ayes. > > That's the way I would read it. I used the example of a wake and > > babble to justify my interpretation of it. Wake reads, This reacting > > vampire can play reaction cards and attempt to block as though untapped > > until the current action is concluded. Doesn't have to do both, can do > > 1 or the other. Babble doesn't require to have the chosen equipment in > > play to burn it. But I'm just making sure... > > I do not believe that this is going to work the way you want. Aye > states specifically "may burn a blood AND tap three ....Aye". its the > cost for the effect. Wake offers you a choice after you have played it, > one, the other or both. When Bauble (not Babble) is burned it will also > burn the chosen equipment, if the chosen equipment is not there to burn > then that effect fizzles. Correct. The key to the distinction lies in the "to". Aye allows you to <do X> "to be able to play reaction cards..." So the X is the cost of that effect. And you cannot attempt to use that effect if you cannot pay the cost. Wake grants an effect. Bauble allows an effect. Neither of those effects is the cost of any other effect (no "to").