Here's the report for the V:EKN sanctioned constructed tournament
held in Gothenburg 2002-03-10 (tenth of march this year).
13 players were present so games proceeded under the multijudge
system.
The regional trend towards more combatorientated decks continued
and several tables saw more vampires in torpor than ready ones.
Games were fierce and with two decks featuring Anarch Revolts
no table timed out. Potence rush and Assamites made short work
of the unhappy noncombat decks next to them but with another
four decks featuring ranged combat combined with the capacity to
deal out heavy pool-loss their day turned sour. With so many
decks being able to torporize tablewins were evenly spread, and
only one deck with a tablewin failed to make it to the finals.
It soon became clear that ranged combat ruled the day and the
final saw the followng players in order of play:
Torbjorn Tzimisce ranged aggravated damage.
Sten Toreador toolbox Assault Rifle intercept.
Bea aus,ani,dom ranged combat press with some heavy bleed.
Mattias Tremere anti theft and aggravated damage.
Bakken Malkavian stealth voter.
Of these players only Bea had managed to grab two tablewins.
The final started with an alliance between Bakken and me (Sten)
before the first vampire was influenced. Both of us depended
on bloating and surrounded by intercepters we agreed upon playing
Fifth Tradition crosstable rather than risk getting intercepted.
Two Anarch Revolts quickly hit the table and people started
stalling, mostly because bleeds were too simply rendered impotent
or just soaked. After that the Malkavians and Toreador had a solid
votelock and Torbjorn and Bea were quickly ousted by means of
voting. That also ended the alliance between Malkavians and
Toreador.
What followed is best described as the tedious game from hell.
Bakkens Malkavians managed to vote one of their members to
Justicar, forced a Reversal of Fortune after which a seemingly
endless number of Millicent Smith hit the table. A total of
five vampires were sacrificed to her, and four of those were
killed on purpose just to get the game moving. In the end the
50+ turn long game was won by the Toreador, not because of
splendid play, but because permanent bloatingeffects combined
with permanent bloodgain made me lose less pool during one
turn of play than Bakkens one and a half KRC on average could
take away. When his library was depleted it was simply impossible
not to bleed him out, and I had been further helped by his switching
places with Mattias during the process. At that time Mattias
were out of vampires and as I had access to unblockable rescues
from torpor I bled him out.
The winning deck is a concept and to say that it needs tuning would
be a grave understatement. I just wanted to prove that Toreador
Grand Ball and Freak Drive was a viable option.
Creator:
Sten During
Deckname: Mastering the unblockable loop
Crypt
Anneke Tor 10 Justicar AUS, CEL, PRE, dom
+1 bleed. May attempt to block a
vampire after other have failed or
declined to do so.
Francois Villon Tor 10 Prince CEL, AUS, PRE, chi, obf, pot
+1 bleed. May steel two blood from a younger
vampire as a +1 stealth D-action.
Anson 4 Tor 8 Prince PRE, CEL, aus, dom
While ready you get 2 master phase actions.
Fatima al-Faqadi Ass 8 CEL, OBF, QUI, aus, for
Once per combat before range may equip with
a weapon from hand. Pay as normal.
Felicia Mostrom Tor 5 AUS, CEL, pre
Dorian Strack Tor 4 AUS, cel
Colin Flynn Tor 3 aus, cel
Isabel de Leon Tor 3 AUS
Dieter Kleist Tor 2 aus
Library 90 cards
Masters 31
Fortitude 5
Blood Doll 8
Aching Beauty 2
Toreador Grand Ball 4
The Parthenon 3
Society Hunting Ground 1
Powerbase: Montreal 1
Information Highway 1
The Rack 1
Elysium: The Palace of Versailles 1
KRCG News Radio 1
Art Museum 1
Club Zombie 1
London Evening Star, Tabloid Newspaper 1
Actions 9
Graverobbing 2
Entrancement 1
The Third Tradition: Progeny 1
The Fifth Tradition: Hospitality 5
Political Actions 5
Parity Shift 3
Anathema 2
Action modifiers 6
Freak Drive 6
Reactions 18
The Second Tradition: Domain 8
Forced Awakening 3
Telepathic Misdirection 5
My Enemy's Enemy 1
Eagle's Sight 1
Equipment 9
Assault Rifle 5
Pier 13, Port of Baltimore 1
Palatial Estate 1
Sport Bike 1
IR Goggles 1
Retainers 4
J.S. Simmons, Esq. 1
Tasha Morgan 1
Resplendent Protector 1
Mr. Winthrop 1
Combat 8
Pursuit 3
Side Strike 3
Taste of Vitae 2
Sit tight and wait until you have brought out Anson and one small
vampire and succesfully played both a Fortitude skillcard on Anson
and a Toreador Grand Ball. Start playing unblockable actions with
the help of Freak Drive, bloat, influence out more pairs of
vampires and repeat until you tire of yourself.
The next tournament in Gothenburg will be Swedish Open march 30.
That tournament is also an EC qualifier and I bid you welcome to
attend.
Sten During
>Sit tight and wait until you have brought out Anson and one small
>vampire and succesfully played both a Fortitude skillcard on Anson
>and a Toreador Grand Ball. Start playing unblockable actions with
>the help of Freak Drive, bloat, influence out more pairs of
>vampires and repeat until you tire of yourself.
>
Influence out more pairs of vampires? Just to make sure, but you do know that
the same vampire can serve as the tapper for multiple Grand Balls, right?
Sounds like a cool deck. And I really liked the special guest appearance of
Fatima! =)
Halcyan 2
Halcyan 2 wrote:
>>Sit tight and wait until you have brought out Anson and one small
>>vampire and succesfully played both a Fortitude skillcard on Anson
>>and a Toreador Grand Ball. Start playing unblockable actions with
>>the help of Freak Drive, bloat, influence out more pairs of
>>vampires and repeat until you tire of yourself.
>>>
>Influence out more pairs of vampires? Just to make sure, but you do know that
>the same vampire can serve as the tapper for multiple Grand Balls, right?
>
Yep, but if haven't got the rules incorrectly I have to create a means
to untap the tapper first,
and this specific version doesn't include such cards.
>
>
>Sounds like a cool deck. And I really liked the special guest appearance of
>Fatima! =)
>
>Halcyan 2
>
Heh :)
I think it can be rebuilt into something that is actually really
efficient. Probably remove
all Parthenon and Aching Beauty in favour of, let's say, two Skin of
Steel, two more
Pursuit and either one additional Progeny or one Fast Reaction. After
that I think the
deck has reached a stage were 'tweaking' becomes an accurate term *grin*.
Sten During
>Yep, but if haven't got the rules incorrectly I have to create a means
>to untap the tapper first,
>and this specific version doesn't include such cards.
>
?
Toreador Grand Ball [DS]
Cardtype: Master
Clan: Toreador
Cost: 1 pool
Master.
Put this card in play. Choose two ready Toreador you control. The first
Toreador cannot be blocked unless he or she attempts to bleed. The second
Toreador does not untap as normal during the untap phase; tap the second
Toreador. This card may be burned by any minion as a (D) action; Nosferatu get
-1 stealth when attempting that action.
I don't really see a untapped requirement. You play the Ball and have to choose
two ready Toreador (not necessarily untapped). The "tapper vampire" becomes
tapped by the card (effect) but does not need to "tap to" cause the effect to
happen.
Even if you did need to untap the "tapper," I'd suggest maybe Precognizant
Mobility instead of wasting more time influencing out more "tappers." You
already have plenty of Auspex and it can always serve as a poor man's Freak
Drive (if you have none in your hand).
Halcyan 2
Halcyan 2 wrote:
>>Yep, but if haven't got the rules incorrectly I have to create a means
>>to untap the tapper first,
>>and this specific version doesn't include such cards.
>>>
>?
>
>Toreador Grand Ball [DS]
>Cardtype: Master
>Clan: Toreador
>Cost: 1 pool
>Master.
>Put this card in play. Choose two ready Toreador you control. The first
>Toreador cannot be blocked unless he or she attempts to bleed. The second
>Toreador does not untap as normal during the untap phase; tap the second
>Toreador. This card may be burned by any minion as a (D) action; Nosferatu get
>-1 stealth when attempting that action.
>
As written above, 'tap the second Toreador'. It might be that I'm not
allowed to chose an already
tapped Toreador (ie then I wouldn't be able to tap it).
>
>
>
>I don't really see a untapped requirement. You play the Ball and have to choose
>two ready Toreador (not necessarily untapped). The "tapper vampire" becomes
>tapped by the card (effect) but does not need to "tap to" cause the effect to
>happen.
>
See above.
>
>
>Even if you did need to untap the "tapper," I'd suggest maybe Precognizant
>Mobility instead of wasting more time influencing out more "tappers." You
>already have plenty of Auspex and it can always serve as a poor man's Freak
>Drive (if you have none in your hand).
>
>Halcyan 2
>
Hmm, never thought of that card :)
Another unblockable action to run in the loop. Two or three of those in
the deck, and that would
make it faster, so I can probably ditch yet some cards and make room for
another two Freak Drive
in order to make it even faster.
Cutting away three Forced Awakening in favour of three Precoignizant
Mobility. I think that will
speed the deck up close to an enture turn during the course of an
average game. Thanks :)
Sten During
Sten During wrote:
> Halcyan 2 wrote:
> >Put this card in play. Choose two ready Toreador you control. The first
> >Toreador cannot be blocked unless he or she attempts to bleed. The second
> >Toreador does not untap as normal during the untap phase; tap the second
> >Toreador. This card may be burned by any minion as a (D) action; Nosferatu get
> >-1 stealth when attempting that action.
>
> As written above, 'tap the second Toreador'. It might be that I'm not
> allowed to chose an already
> tapped Toreador (ie then I wouldn't be able to tap it).
"Choose two ready Toreador".
Either or both "ready Toreador" may be tapped already.
Then tap the second (if it is tapped already, leave it in its tapped state) as directed.
--
LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc.
Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules:
http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/
LSJ wrote:
>Sten During wrote:
>>>Halcyan 2 wrote:
>>>>>Put this card in play. Choose two ready Toreador you control. The first
>>>Toreador cannot be blocked unless he or she attempts to bleed. The second
>>>Toreador does not untap as normal during the untap phase; tap the second
>>>Toreador. This card may be burned by any minion as a (D) action; Nosferatu get
>>>-1 stealth when attempting that action.
>>>>>As written above, 'tap the second Toreador'. It might be that I'm not
>>allowed to chose an already
>>tapped Toreador (ie then I wouldn't be able to tap it).
>>>
>"Choose two ready Toreador".
>Either or both "ready Toreador" may be tapped already.
>Then tap the second (if it is tapped already, leave it in its tapped state) as directed.
>
Wow, great, that sure speeds up the deck a LOT :)
Sten During
> The final started with an alliance between Bakken and me (Sten)
> before the first vampire was influenced. Both of us depended
> on bloating and surrounded by intercepters we agreed upon playing
> Fifth Tradition crosstable rather than risk getting intercepted.
i don't understand the reason for this... you'd get intercepted anyway
regardless who controlled the vampire being fifth'd...
please explain,
jds
"Sten During" <ya...@netg.se> wrote in message news:3C93A6E4...@netg.se...
>
> >>The final started with an alliance between Bakken and me (Sten)
> >>before the first vampire was influenced. Both of us depended
> >>on bloating and surrounded by intercepters we agreed upon playing
> >>Fifth Tradition crosstable rather than risk getting intercepted.
> >>
> >
> >i don't understand the reason for this... you'd get intercepted anyway
> >regardless who controlled the vampire being fifth'd...
> >
>> I'm chosing a vampire that I'm not controlling, which ought to make it a
> D-action.
>
I wanna say you're wrong, as I can't remember 5th ever being used as a (D)
action, and was always under the impression that it was undirected. However,
since the ruling that an action could be dircted even if it didn't say (D) on it
(a very old ruling), I can't think of any reason to fault your logic on it.
That sucks.