New Sabbat War print run / Problems

hi everybody, especialy the powers that be i opened a box of sabbat war boosters yesterday. i noticed the following disturbing facts: 1.) there seems to be the same card/booster distribution problem as with the last print runs 1.1) a non fixed number of commons/uncommons/vamps per booster (i got as much as 6 vamps in some boosters and never less than 2) or a non fixed uncommon vampire to uncommon librarycard ratio 2.) a duplication of cards in the boosters 2.1) in 5 boosters i had the following cards in sequence: Vamp A Card B Vamp A Card B i had a rare card in every booster now there are several possibilities: 1) the exact same screw up as with the last print run of SW happened (http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=4EzM5.9891%24M85.78608%40news4.atl) 2) my retailer somehow received old SW and not the new print run (IMHO unrealistic) 3) there was no new print run but old stock held back was released as new printrun (paranoid-conspiracy-theroy-nonsense) it is somewhat annoying to open a box of boosters and get approx 30% vamps. could someone (preferably LSJ or Steve Wieck) make a statement on this? is there something on the box to indicate which print run it is from ? regards Chris.QJ

"Chris.QJ" wrote: > i opened a box of sabbat war boosters yesterday. > [...] > it is somewhat annoying to open a box of boosters and get approx 30% > vamps. That was the target number, actually. ~3 out of 11 cards should be vampires in SW packs. While the variance in each pack is higher than we'd like, the overall ratio is correct. > could someone (preferably LSJ or Steve Wieck) make a statement on > this? The same collation scheme was (probably) used. > > is there something on the box to indicate which print run it is from ? Not to my knowledge. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

> is there something on the box to indicate which print run it is from ? > > regards > Chris.QJ A related question: Is there any method at all for seperating new and old print run cards?

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"LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:3DDA8BA1...@white-wolf.com... > Menno Rieff wrote: > > A related question: Is there any method at all for seperating new and > > old print run cards? > > Not to my knowledge. I haven't seen the 3rd printrun of Sabbat War. But if I remember correctly, the inking on the 2nd run was somewhat lighter than on the 1st run? (I could have that backwards, but I don't think so.) Also, the 2nd run of SW fixed typos or omissions on Creation Rites, Greta Kircher, and Power Structure. That wouldn't help in telling 2 from 3 though. Josh old cards in new wrappers

LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:<3DDA8BA1...@white-wolf.com>... > Menno Rieff wrote: > > > > > is there something on the box to indicate which print run it is from ? > > > > > > regards > > > Chris.QJ > > > > A related question: Is there any method at all for seperating new and > > old print run cards? > > Not to my knowledge. i could be wrong on this, but i can actually tell the difference between 1st+2nd and 3rd print run sabbat war. notice the feel of the cardstock used for CE. to me it feels kind of soft, there is a difference in the coating of the cards. the old cards are a bit more shiny too, i think. so you just take a SW card, and compare it to a CE card, if it feels the same, then it's from the 3rd print run. if it feels the same as any 'old' SW card (or FN card, for that matter), then it's from one of the first two print runs. maybe i'm the only one who's noticed, but i can actually tell the difference very easily now. MiF

LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> schrieb: >"Chris.QJ" wrote: >> i opened a box of sabbat war boosters yesterday. >> [...] >> it is somewhat annoying to open a box of boosters and get approx 30% >> vamps. > >That was the target number, actually. >~3 out of 11 cards should be vampires in SW packs. >While the variance in each pack is higher than we'd like, the overall >ratio is correct. > >> could someone (preferably LSJ or Steve Wieck) make a statement on >> this? > >The same collation scheme was (probably) used. > >> >> is there something on the box to indicate which print run it is from ? > >Not to my knowledge. thanks Chris.QJ