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TOM: Repost: How does a non-directed action have a target?

4 messages from 3 participants · 18 May 1995 – 23 May 1995
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L. Scott Johnson

Hope you had a pleasant coupl'a days away from our hounding, Tom :-) Just before you left, the question came up: How can an undirected action (Blood Bond) have a target (e.g., Anvil)? It is either directed, and its effects will cease when the "target" Anvil is burned (so that a lemon-fresh, non-bonded Anvil may be brought out), Or It is undirected, and its effects will cease when the Acting vampire is burned - continuing to affect any copy of the vampire named. Or (more likely) The DT will stonewall this one and say that it is an undirected action with an external target (flying in the face of the definition of undirected). How now? -- L. Scott Johnson (sjoh...@math.scarolina.edu) | These opinions are mine and Graphics Specialist and Jyhad Rulemonger. | are subject to card text.

James Bowes

I was reading all the notes back and forth on the Blood Bond dilemma, and went to read my card. (Unfortunately, this was on Mon. or Tues. so I'm working from memory now.) When I read what the card actually says, as opposed to what I thought it said, it was clear to me that the card could not remain in effect. I don't know for sure, so I can't really argue the point, not to mention I _don't_ have the card right now. Anyways, from what I remember, it wasn't "name" a vamp; and thus that _Name_ cannot block. Rather it was "choose" (I think); and so you pick one of the vamps that is out on the table. When that vamp goes away, all is said and done. Now if people are reading "choose" as "naming" then there is nothing to be done about that. (Most people do not change their minds around here.) Ta Ta. Remy leb...@u.washington.edu | It's not my fault! Gambit at the U.W. | Laugh it up fuzzball! | - Han Solo "I don't want the world, I just want your half." "Life is like a riddle, and I'm really stumped."

L. Scott Johnson

In article <Pine.A32.3.91j.95051...@homer13.u.washington.edu>, James Bowes <leb...@u.washington.edu> wrote: > I was reading all the notes back and forth on the Blood Bond dilemma, >and went to read my card. (Unfortunately, this was on Mon. or Tues. so >I'm working from memory now.) When I read what the card actually says, as >opposed to what I thought it said, it was clear to me that the card could >not remain in effect. I don't know for sure, so I can't really argue the >point, not to mention I _don't_ have the card right now. Anyways, from what >I remember, it wasn't "name" a vamp; and thus that _Name_ cannot block. >Rather it was "choose" (I think); and so you pick one of the vamps that is >out on the table. When that vamp goes away, all is said and done. Now if >people are reading "choose" as "naming" then there is nothing to be done >about that. (Most people do not change their minds around here.) Ta Ta. > Yes, it does say choose. But it also does not say (D). The two don't jive, so one is in error (one of: choose, (D), or DT :-) I understand the meaning of the word choose, but I also understand the meaning of the term "undirected action". You can't "Bond" with a vampire if you don't go to the chosen vampire. People don't change there minds around here because no logical reason is presented to do so, and we grew accustomed to thinking for ourselves. -- ----- L. Scott Johnson (lsc...@crl.com) | The opinions expressed are mine Graphics Specialist and Jyhad Rulemonger | and subject to card text

Thomas R Wylie

Blood Bond certainly looks like it should be directed. I'll throw it into the design team hopper to see if we want to issue errata for it. In the meantime, just remember that there's nothing wrong with house rules ;) Tom Wylie rec.games.trading-cards.* Network Representative for aa...@cats.ucsc.edu Wizards of the Coast, Inc.