Ok, sorry, one more total newbie question:
If I understand the rules correctly, If I have a 10 strength vampire in my
inactive pool, I need to put TEN blood from my pool onto this guy to make
him active. That's 1/3 of my blood right there!!!
My question is this, once I make him active, can I then pull a couple
blood back into my pool, and send him hunting to make up the deficit. And
if I take the blood back, does he go back to being inactive?
Thanks again!
Ray Powers (ra...@ramp.com) wrote:
: If I understand the rules correctly, If I have a 10 strength vampire in my: inactive pool, I need to put TEN blood from my pool onto this guy to make
: him active. That's 1/3 of my blood right there!!!
You understand correctly. This is why some players play with a lot of
little (2-4) vampires and no big ones at all. Thing is, the big ones
have the votes and some cool powers... It is a trade-off each player must
decide on their own.
: My question is this, once I make him active, can I then pull a couple: blood back into my pool, and send him hunting to make up the deficit. And
: if I take the blood back, does he go back to being inactive?
No. There are cards which allow you to do things like this however;
Blood Doll - Master card, played on a vampire of yours. Allows you to move
one blood per turn either from your pool to the vampire or from the
vampire to your turn.
Minion Tap - Master Card, one-shot. Remove blood from a vampire (up to a
maximum of all the vampire has) and put it in your blood pool.
There are others, but these are both common and you are more likely to
have one of these if you just started playing...
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Bob Ellison (pap...@fc.hp.com) wrote:
: > If I understand the rules correctly, If I have a 10 strength vampire in my: > inactive pool, I need to put TEN blood from my pool onto this guy to make
: > him active. That's 1/3 of my blood right there!!!: Yup yup yup. 10-capacity vampires are cool - but there's quite a cost.
: This is what makes Jyhad work better than Magic. In Magic, the rarer
: cards are usually more powerful than the commons, and are thus preferred.
: In Jyhad, the rare cards are powerful - but at a price that balances
: the effect.
Hmmmm.... Don't think so. All vampires are the same rarity (don't
confuse the poor newbie! :-) so that logic doesn't work. How about:
In Jyhad, the common cards are the most useful, and where commonality is
not anissue (i.e. Vampires), power is usually balanced out against the
resources it takes to get the card into play...
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pap...@fc.hp.com (Bob Ellison) writes:
>Yup yup yup. 10-capacity vampires are cool - but there's quite a cost.
>This is what makes Jyhad work better than Magic. In Magic, the rarer
>cards are usually more powerful than the commons, and are thus preferred.
>In Jyhad, the rare cards are powerful - but at a price that balances
>the effect.
Not that capacity 10 vamps are any rarer than other vamps. You just
don't see as many come out :-).
In general, though, the rare cards in Jyhad are just more interesting, not
game-unbalancing as in Magic (as you said). Sometimes the reverse is
true. The Chainsaw is on the Uncommon sheet (twice), while the (in
every way superior) Sawed-off Shotgun is on the Common sheet.
Having a chainsaw in combat may be more "interesting" but the mechanics
of the game favor the shotgun hands-down.
The rare weapons (Ivory Bow, etc.) are balanced by: cost/lack of Manuver/
or uniqueness.
I know of no other collectable card game that strives so hard for the
game balance over gotta-buy-more-cards-so-I-can-win syndrome.
L. Scott
Enchant Kindred:
If I just want a (D) bleed at +1, I'll just use Computer Hacking,
which anybody can use.
What's the point of an undirected action at +0 stealth?
It'll certainly get blocked. How many undirected actions
at +0 stealth are there in the game?
As far as I know, there aren't too many vampires with both
Obfuscate and Superior Presence. Is this card out there
just to force someone to block you? Has anyone seen
this action actually being successful?
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"Live Life with Heart."
Alan Kwan kw...@cs.cornell.edu
In article <3ib1o1$q...@hermes.louisville.edu> "James R. McClure Jr." <jrmc...@ulkyvm.louisville.edu> writes:
>sjoh...@math.scarolina.edu (L. Scott Johnson) wrote:
>>> In general, though, the rare cards in Jyhad are just more interesting, not
>> game-unbalancing as in Magic (as you said). Sometimes the reverse is
>> true. The Chainsaw is on the Uncommon sheet (twice), while the (in
>> every way superior) Sawed-off Shotgun is on the Common sheet.>>Peace L. Scott,
>
> I just had to say that the Chainsaw does have one advantage: it is
>a melee weapon. This means that several Potence cards can be used in con-
>junction with a Chainsaw. Really useful if you are Brujah.
This is very true, but only if there is an official errata for
the card. The card itself doesn't say that it's a
melee weapon.
And I think Arson is so much better than Rampage (in practice).
Anyone who's been using Rampage in their deck, and not because
they don't have enough Arson's to put in?
Alan.
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The key to using Enchant Kindred (as with Govern the Unaligned) isn't in
the +1 bleed, it's in the free blood that you can put on vampires. With
enough of these cards and a big vampire out, you can get a one or two free
minions.
jafager
In article <3iiehu$9...@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> aha...@bigbang.astro.indiana.edu (Alec Habig) writes:
[ quoted text not captured ]>sure, but it's at +0 stealth, so no one's going to let the action go unblocked.
Not only is it at +0 stealth, it's also undirected, so more than
1 player can block. Any predator who won't mind letting
his prey get two blood (at +0 stealth)?
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In article <3ir7t2$t...@newsbf02.news.aol.com> bua...@aol.com (BuakuNR) writes:
>I play A brujah combat deck, and sure, you can block my 0 stealth EK, that
>is if you really want to... Ah, ha, ha, ha!
Your point: opponent prefers to let you do EK rather than
combat you.
My point: I take out all the EK's from my Brujah combat deck
and replace them with Bum's Rush'es. Block it or not,
they enter combat. I win. Opponent was /wishing/ that
my Bum's Rush'es were EK's ...
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farallo (far...@rohan.sdsu.edu) wrote:
: In article <3igkfp$l...@news.udel.edu>,
: Jason A. Fager <jaf...@perot.harter.udel.edu> wrote:
: >The key to using Enchant Kindred (as with Govern the Unaligned) isn't in[ quoted text not captured ]: >: I play with all of the Govern the Unaligned and Enchant Kind. I
: own. I think they are among the most usefull cards in my deck. I play
: an all tremere deck. The flexibility of having a +1 stealth three point
: bleed is great. As a mater of fact those cards are the only conditioning
Excuse me, but where do you get "a +1 stealth three point bleed"? Govern
the Unaligned can be used as a +2 bleed (with *NO* added stealth) or to
put 3 blood on a younger uncontrolled vampire, at +1 stealth. The stealth
bonus ONLY applies to the "Put 3 Blood..." action. (If you're talking
about comboes, and not just GtU, nevermind...)
: And the the people who think Tremere cant hold their own against
: Brujah in combat, What are you smoking. The only ones I dont like taking
: head on are the Gangrel, unless I have an extra Roshraika (sp) in my han
I say they can't, and I'm not smoking anything. Tremere have some GREAT
abilities, but most are only usable on the second round. Presses to avoid
that second around aren't hard to play, and it lets the Brujah hit you
for 3-8 points of damage (Blur + Potence card combos) while the best you
can do is a Theft of Vitae (or a Burst of Sunlight, if you're feeling
suicidal). Hit hard and get out, and you can trash Tremere with Brujah.
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