My roommate and I just started playing Jyhad and we have encountered
one major problem. Can you block another player's master card? Our
specific problem has been with Misdirection (Tap X Minions). Usually this
comes up close to the end of the game and it results in a very quick end.
Any help or suggestions for countering this would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
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Peace,
The only way to "block" a Master card is with the Master card Sudden
Reversal. Yes, being Misdirected can be a big problem and a quick end
to a game. Keep a Wake or two handy.
Nil carborundum illigitimi,
James R. McClure Jr.
The OS/2 Apostle
<insert disclaimer here>
Yes, master cards can be "blocked", so to speak. Sudden reversal has
pissed off many an opponant when I have played it just when they think
they can catch me with my pants down with something like Misdirection.
Also, keeping a couple of Wake With Evenings Fresheness and/or Rats
Warning and Cats Guidance if you have those disciplines, is another good
defense against that.
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The card you're thinking of is Sudden Reversal, although you can also
use Wake with Evening's Freshness, and 2nd Tradition: Domain (for Princes
& Justicars) to untap and block
***Guy***
In article <3k9hnp$r...@hermes.louisville.edu>, "James R. McClure Jr."
<jrmc...@ulkyvm.louisville.edu> wrote:
:jproo...@aol.com (JProofrock) wrote:
:>
:> My roommate and I just started playing Jyhad and we have encountered
:> one major problem. Can you block another player's master card?
Speaking of blocking master cards, heres a question. One of the other
players in a game called a vote with a Brujah. Nobody blocked, so I
played Burjah frenzy, hoping to pit him against my predator. He played
Change of Target, which allows one to undo a blocked action. Is this
legal? A reaction card canceling a master card? If so, what happens to
the vote card? Change of target says they can't perform the same action.
Could they call a differnt vote, or they can call votes at all?
Robert Story (rst...@revelstone.com) wrote:
: Speaking of blocking master cards, heres a question. One of the other: players in a game called a vote with a Brujah. Nobody blocked, so I
: played Burjah frenzy, hoping to pit him against my predator. He played
: Change of Target, which allows one to undo a blocked action. Is this
: legal? A reaction card canceling a master card? If so, what happens to
: the vote card? Change of target says they can't perform the same action.
: Could they call a differnt vote, or they can call votes at all?
AFAIK: The playing of the Change of Target was perfectly legal (and a
good move!) on the part of the Brujah player. The original Vote card and
the Brujah friendly go to their owner's ash heaps. The CoT did not counter
the master card any more than it would have countered any enhanced
intercept you may have played - it just rescinded the action. You still
lose your next Master phase though, because you played a MOOT card.
As far as calling another vote, I say no. Had they been trying to equip
with a shotgun, they could not then try and re-equip with a .44, as those
are the same action (Equip Minion). I see this as an analogous case -
the action they were performing was 'Call Vote' so they cannot then call
another vote as their next action after the CoT.
Shane Travis | A fanatic is someone who can't change his
sht...@duke.usask.ca | mind and won't change the subject.
Saskatoon, Saskatchewan | -- Winston Churchill
sht...@duke.usask.ca (Shane Hamish William Travis) writes:
>Robert Story (rst...@revelstone.com) wrote:>: Speaking of blocking master cards, heres a question. One of the other
>: players in a game called a vote with a Brujah. Nobody blocked, so I
>: played Burjah frenzy, hoping to pit him against my predator. He played
>: Change of Target, which allows one to undo a blocked action. Is this
>: legal? A reaction card canceling a master card? If so, what happens to
>: the vote card? Change of target says they can't perform the same action.
>: Could they call a differnt vote, or they can call votes at all?>AFAIK: The playing of the Change of Target was perfectly legal (and a
>good move!) on the part of the Brujah player. The original Vote card and
>the Brujah friendly go to their owner's ash heaps. The CoT did not counter
>the master card any more than it would have countered any enhanced
>intercept you may have played - it just rescinded the action. You still
>lose your next Master phase though, because you played a MOOT card.>As far as calling another vote, I say no. Had they been trying to equip
>with a shotgun, they could not then try and re-equip with a .44, as those
>are the same action (Equip Minion). I see this as an analogous case -
>the action they were performing was 'Call Vote' so they cannot then call
>another vote as their next action after the CoT.
No, each action is very specific. Equip with a Shotgun is a different action
than equip with a .44. Calling a vote is specific to the vote called.
Another vote may be called by the same minion after CoT.
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Actually, Change of Target is an Action Modifier, not a Reaction, so it is
legal to play it in a situation where a minion is calling a vote and gets
blocked. However, Brujah Frenzy adds the kicker that the acting Brujah
*must* go into combat, so I'd say that he can't get off the hook by
playing Change of Target. Brujah Frenzy would also stop him from using
stealth cards to keep from being blocked (not that Brujah are likely
to be able to increase their stealth anyway).
In a situation where a vote is blocked, the vote card goes to the ash
heap. If the acting minion plays Change of Target after being blocked,
it could call another vote, but not with a voting card identical to the
one that was discarded.
Pat O'Malley
oma...@convex.com
sjoh...@math.scarolina.edu (L. Scott Johnson) writes:
>No, each action is very specific. Equip with a Shotgun is a different action
>than equip with a .44. Calling a vote is specific to the vote called.
>Another vote may be called by the same minion after CoT.
If equipment cards were "Action: Equip Minion" cards then the
situation would be different. But now each political action is
considered different action if the card is not the same, and Change of
Target works fine. At first it seems unlogical but on the second thought...
))marko
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