Anathema & Blood to Water

Hi ! Has everyone some kind of use for the card Anathema ? Can't find a thing.. btw, Blood to water is a great card. Is this card played after the "Maneuver-Phase" and before strikes are announced ? In this case nothing can be made against this effect. If it is resolved after the strike announcment, a majesty would help, would't it ? Thanks for the answers in advice, Richthofen

In article <MPG.13a15bd78...@news.online-club.de>, Stefan Richthofen <Trem...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Hi ! > > Has everyone some kind of use for the card Anathema ? Can't find a > thing.. Had a friend with a Francois Villon/Crimson Sentinel/Alexandra/Anathema deck. That was pretty annoying. -- William Burke, passenge...@hotmail.com Hey! This isn't the way to San Jose! Visit my web page! Marvel! Marvel! http://come.to/passenger-pigeon/

On Fri, 2 Jun 2000, Stefan Richthofen wrote: > Has everyone some kind of use for the card Anathema ? Can't find a > thing.. Vote/Rush decks, often combining some of the larger princes who can also punch out hard, have a great time with it. Not only do you rush a vampire and get rid of them, you get pool for your trouble. > btw, Blood to water is a great card. Is this card played after the > "Maneuver-Phase" and before strikes are announced ? Yes, and it must be at close range. > In this case nothing > can be made against this effect. Well, you can use Direct Intervention as one option. Don't forget that against vampires all it does is burn blood. It is only allies whom it will burn. > If it is resolved after the strike > announcment, a majesty would help, would't it ? Yes, but this is not the case, however. When you play it, it resolves. Most combat cards, except strikes, work like that. For reference, the errata/rulings currently sitting on it are: Blood to Water [AH] - Combat (tha) (2) The "otherwise" refers to the opposing minion *being* an Ally. Blood to Water won't burn vampires. [TOM 19960607] Blood to Water can't be used at long range. [RTR 19960708] Blood to Water can't be played until range is determined. [RTR 19961113] -- James Coupe | PGP Key 0x5D623D5D "I know my ex-boyfriend lies. Oh, he does it every time. It's just his permanent disguise, yeah, yeah, but he's drop dead gorgeous."

In article <Pine.SOL.4.21.0006021020250.4053- 100...@orange.csi.cam.ac.uk>, ja...@zephyr.org.uk says... > Vote/Rush decks, often combining some of the larger princes who can also > punch out hard, have a great time with it. Not only do you rush a vampire > and get rid of them, you get pool for your trouble. Played on your own vampire ? Hmm... you get pool, right. But you lose a minion ! Don't see that big advantage in this card. Having ready-blocker minions is the key to be sucessful! Played on an opposing minion burns that minion but gives the opposing methuselah pool. Nay! :-( The things i've read about Blood to Water are very shocking! That card isn't as good after all. Burn an ally? There are so many other ways to do that. :( Richthofen

> Played on your own vampire ? Hmm... you get pool, right. But you lose a > minion ! Don't see that big advantage in this card. Having ready-blocker > minions is the key to be sucessful! Played on an opposing minion burns > that minion but gives the opposing methuselah pool. Nay! :-( No, read the card again. The contoller of the minion opposing the vamp that was Anathema'd gets the pool, not the controller of the Anathema'd minion. > The things i've read about Blood to Water are very shocking! That card > isn't as good after all. Burn an ally? There are so many other ways to do > that. :( Indeed, but you really don't want to use it on an Ally, though. Close 2nd round combat, you can nail them with B2W (which can't be prevented and is not a strike) for 5 then use Walk of Flame for 2 agg. Not pleasant at all. Sorrow --- "This is my costume. I'm a homicidal maniac. They look just like everyone else." -- Wednesday Addams

Stefan Richthofen wrote: > > In article <Pine.SOL.4.21.0006021020250.4053- > 100...@orange.csi.cam.ac.uk>, ja...@zephyr.org.uk says... > > > Vote/Rush decks, often combining some of the larger princes who can also > > punch out hard, have a great time with it. Not only do you rush a vampire > > and get rid of them, you get pool for your trouble. > > Played on your own vampire ? Hmm... you get pool, right. But you lose a > minion ! Don't see that big advantage in this card. Having ready-blocker > minions is the key to be sucessful! Played on an opposing minion burns > that minion but gives the opposing methuselah pool. Nay! :-( Anathema gives the *opposing* minion's controller pool. So if you play Anathema on another Methuselah's vampire and then rush that vampire and reduce him to zero blood in combat, you gain pool equivalent to the rushed/anathema'ed vampire's capacity (and that rushed vampire is burned). > The things i've read about Blood to Water are very shocking! That card > isn't as good after all. Burn an ally? There are so many other ways to do > that. :( But how many of them also give you the option of burning 5 blood from a vampire? -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

>> The things i've read about Blood to Water are very shocking! That card >> isn't as good after all. Burn an ally? There are so many other ways to do >> that. :( > >But how many of them also give you the option of burning 5 blood from >a vampire? Blood to Water is pretty cool. How about playing it with Drawing Out The Beast to ensure that close range? I have a question for LSJ though. If Blood To Water must be played after range is chosen and before strike resolution then it can't be avoided by S:CE, right? More importantly, if a vampire with Anathema is reduced to zero blood via Blood to Water, then is ths vampire burnt immediately, or does combat continue until the round is completed? Regards, Mike Nudd VEKN Prince of London mi...@vekn.org.uk http://www.vtes.org.uk/

Mike Nudd wrote: > I have a question for LSJ though. If Blood To Water must be played > after range is chosen and before strike resolution then it can't be > avoided by S:CE, right? Right (the effect happens immediately, which is before S:CE resolves). > More importantly, if a vampire with Anathema > is reduced to zero blood via Blood to Water, then is ths vampire burnt > immediately, or does combat continue until the round is completed? Immediately. [ quoted text not captured ]