rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

[Q] Rewind Time & Special Report

6 messages from 5 participants · 11 October 2002 – 14 October 2002
original thread on Google Groups

DJ.Mik

I was just considering a deck idea with Synesios and just wanted to make sure that the timing was as I suspected (in which case I'll drop the idea !) Synesios is tapped and I play Spec. Rep. to make him untap and react. Special Report [CE] Cardtype: Master Master: out-of-turn Choose a ready vampire you control. That vampire untaps and attempts to block. Once this action you may burn 1 pool to give that vampire +1 intercept. ....... But, since the card text says "attempts to block" it is not possible for Synesios to "Rewind" the action card used as he's blocking and has accepted the action. Ergo, it's too late to play Rewind Time. Is this correct ? Rewind Time [BL] Cardtype: Reaction Cost: 2 blood Discipline: Temporis/Presence [pre] Reduce a bleed against you by 1. [tem] Burn an action card as it is played. That card has no effect (the acting minion is not tapped). [TEM] Burn a non-out-of-turn master card as it is played during any other Methuselah's master phase (usable by a ready, untapped vampire even though there is no action). That master card has no effect. The Methuselah who played it retrieves the pool cost of that card from the blood bank and gains another master phase action. Thanx Dj Mikkel

Jozxyqk

DJ.Mik <djmi...@hotmail.com> wrote: > I was just considering a deck idea with Synesios and just wanted to > make sure that the timing was as I suspected (in which case I'll drop > the idea !) > Synesios is tapped and I play Spec. Rep. to make him untap and react. > Special Report [CE] > Cardtype: Master > > Master: out-of-turn > Choose a ready vampire you control. That vampire untaps and attempts > to block. Once this action you may burn 1 pool to give that vampire +1 > intercept. > ....... > But, since the card text says "attempts to block" it is not possible > for Synesios to "Rewind" the action card used as he's blocking and has > accepted the action. Ergo, it's too late to play Rewind Time. Is this > correct ? [IANLSJ]: You untap and attempt to block. If you succeed, then you have to block. If the action is at stealth, though, you are not forced to generate intercept. If you fail to block, you're still untapped, and therefore you can use whatever reactions you want to.

LSJ

[ quoted text not captured ] Right. Except for the ones whose time has passed, like Rewind Time. You can't play Rewind Time to cancel the action card after playing Special Report. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

James Coupe

In message <3qDp9.2950$gr6.2627@rwcrnsc53>, Jozxyqk <jfeu...@eecs.tufts.edu> writes: >[IANLSJ]: >You untap and attempt to block. Correct. >If you succeed, then you have to block. >If the action is at stealth, though, you are not forced to generate >intercept. Also correct. >If you fail to block, you're still untapped, and therefore you can use >whatever reactions you want to. True, if timing allows for it. But not Rewind Time, inferior Tem, because it is played "as the action is announced". The point at which you are untapping/attempting to block is well after that phase. -- James Coupe PGP 0x5D623D5D Don't just clap. What's the use of that? EBD690ECD7A1FB457CA2 You there, gorgeous creature. 13D7E668C3695D623D5D Stop...that...bus!

arden mcbathan

lsj wrote: > Except for the ones whose time has passed, like Rewind Time. > You can't play Rewind Time to cancel the action card after playing > Special Report. can you use special report to be able to rewind master phase actions(or oot masters)? well, i guess no, since this game doesn't have interrupt effects... but, in any case(because of the following conditional would), the block would fail, eh?

James Coupe

In message <aae0be1a.0210...@posting.google.com>, arden mcbathan <sonnenk...@aol.com> writes: >can you use special report to be able to rewind master phase >actions(or oot masters)? Assuming you mean Rewind Time - as Special Report has nothing to do with rewinding master phase actions at all - no. Card text is particularly explicit about out of turn master cards, and a master phase action (e.g. sucking a pool of Short Term Investment) is not a master phase card. [ quoted text not captured ]