Control of Counters

Hello All, I wanted to make sure that counters(not on cards) are controlled by the Methuselah who has them, examples I can think of are Sabbat Threat and Deploy the Hand. If the Methuselah who put them in play is ousted do they stay in play? thanks, David Wilson

"David Wilson" <d o r o s @ u m i c h . e d u> expounded: [ quoted text not captured ] "methuselah gets 1 counter" implies to me that they are controlled by the methuselah getting them (at any rate not controlled by anyone else) and so do not leave the game while that methuselah is in (unless they burn the edge or whatever)

[ quoted text not captured ] Yes. By default, counters are controlled by the Methuselah who has them or the controller of the card the counter is on. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

> > I wanted to make sure that counters(not on cards) are controlled by the > > Methuselah who has them, examples I can think of are Sabbat Threat and > > Deploy the Hand. If the Methuselah who put them in play is ousted do they > > stay in play? > > Yes. By default, counters are controlled by the Methuselah who has them > or the controller of the card the counter is on. I have skimmed the rules, I did not see a control of counters write up. So as not to waste your time, does this exist in the rules? if so I will look harder, thanks again, David

David Wilson wrote: >>Yes. By default, counters are controlled by the Methuselah who has them >>or the controller of the card the counter is on. > > I have skimmed the rules, I did not see a control of counters write up. So > as not to waste your time, does this exist in the rules? It does not. [ quoted text not captured ]