Environmental Damage questions & more

I have a couple of questions regarding Environmental damage. 1) Murder of Crows and Carrion Crows both "trigger" during strike resolution. Does that mean that you still get damaged when you play a S:CE card or does Majesty still beat this. In the same regard, can I play Carrion Crows and Majesty afterwards and have my opponent take 2 damage. Or does S:CE simply always trigger first? 2) I have a vampire with THA and a Murder of Crows. The opposing vampire has two blood. I play Theft of Vitae as my strike, the opposing vampire does something that has not cost.. Do I get two blood and does Murder torporize the opposing minion, or does Murder trigger first and do I steal only one blood ny lack of more? Or does the controller of Murder of Crows decide which one triggers first? 3) If I play Weather Control under Dawn Operation, can I still use Skin of Night (or Merril Molitor's ability or Firedance or whatever) to turn the damage to normal or means "cannot prevented" also "cannot be changed". Furthermore, if I *can* Skin of Night in this case (I smell a deck idea here), can I Amaranth the opposing minion, assuming he or she doesn't use Skin of Night or something similar. So far environmental. Also, 4) If I play Aid from bats as a strike (as normal, in the strike phase and not in the maneuver phase), can I "save" the optional maneuver until the next round? Or is it simply ignored? 5) Can I play the same action modifier twice with the same vampire? If so, does that mean I can use multiple Voter Caps or Rituals of the Bitter Rose and if not can I also not use two different effects on the same card? 6) The same question, but then for reaction cards Thanks a lot!

On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 05:28:33 +0200, "Ulugh Beg II" <dontfe...@spam.me> wrote: >1) Murder of Crows and Carrion Crows both "trigger" during strike resolution. >Does that mean that you still get damaged when you play a S:CE card No. http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/rulebook/ [6.4.5 definition of Strike: Combat Ends] "it ends combat before other strikes or other strike resolution effects are resolved." >or does Majesty still beat this. Yes. >In the same regard, can I play Carrion Crows and Majesty afterwards >and have my opponent take 2 damage. No. >Or does S:CE simply always trigger first? Yes. >2) I have a vampire with THA and a Murder of Crows. The opposing vampire has two blood. >I play Theft of Vitae as my strike, the opposing vampire does something that has not cost.. >Do I get two blood and does Murder torporize the opposing minion, Yes. >or does Murder trigger first and do I steal only one blood ny lack of more? No. The strikes resolve, then damage is handled. http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/rulebook/ [6.4.3 definition of resolve strike] "the effects of a strike are applied and then damage is resolved." > Or does the controller of Murder of Crows decide which one triggers first?. No. >3) If I play Weather Control under Dawn Operation, can I still use Skin of Night > (or Merril Molitor's ability or Firedance or whatever) to turn the damage to normal Yes. >or means "cannot prevented" also "cannot be changed". No. >Furthermore, if I *can* Skin of Night in this case (I smell a deck idea here), >can I Amaranth the opposing minion, assuming he or she doesn't use >Skin of Night or something similar. Yes. http://www.thelasombra.com/decks/tf.htm http://www.thelasombra.com/decks/tf2.htm http://www.thelasombra.com/decks/Dont_Block_the_Ventrue.htm http://www.thelasombra.com/decks/xian.htm#joydivision >4) If I play Aid from bats as a strike (as normal, in the strike phase and not >in the maneuver phase), can I "save" the optional maneuver until the next round? No. > Or is it simply ignored? It is lost. Combat cards which grant a maneuver only grant that maneuver in the same round without explicit card text otherwise. [6.4.2 Determine Range] "If a combat card played by a minion has a maneuver as part of an effect, the maneuver must be used that round of combat." >5) Can I play the same action modifier twice with the same vampire? Not on the same action. [1.6.3.3 definition of action modifier] "A minion cannot play the same action modifier more than once during a single action." >If so, does that mean I can use multiple Voter Caps No. >or Rituals of the Bitter Rose If played as a combat card = Yes. If played as an action modifier = No. >and if not can I also not use two different effects on the same card? . No. >6) The same question, but then for reaction cards Same answer. [1.6.3.5 definition of reaction card] "A minion cannot play the same reaction card more than once during a single action. " Carpe noctem. Lasombra http://www.TheLasombra.com

Thanks man, you're being of great help. One more about this: > >or Rituals of the Bitter Rose > > If played as a combat card = Yes. > If played as an action modifier = No. So if I play it twice as a combat card, all my vamps gain double the blood on the one I'm diablerizing and the one actually playing RotB gets triple the blood?

Ulugh Beg II wrote: >>>or Rituals of the Bitter Rose > So if I play it twice as a combat card, all my vamps gain double the > blood on the one I'm diablerizing and the one actually playing RotB gets > triple the blood? Yes. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/