rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

Storyline question

8 messages from 5 participants · 22 October 2009
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Abdul alHazred

Hi, Is a vampire who has been contested and is brought back into play considered to be "moved into the ready region" and triggering the storyline special rule for laibons to allow you to search for a card if that vampire is a Laibon or is he out of play in the ready region? On another note is a vampire who has a writ of Acceptance or an anarch counter and is banished or in any other way moved into the uncontrolled region considered to be a Camarilla/anarch when he is "moved into the ready region"? ______________________________________ Writ of Acceptance Type: Equipment Equipment. The vampire with this equipment is considered a Camarilla vampire Seattle Committee Type: Master Unique master. Put this card in play. During your master phase, you may tap this card to put an anarch counter on a ready non-titled, non-anarch vampire you control. A vampire with an anarch counter is considered anarch (and independent) even if this card leaves play. If a vampire with an anarch counter changes sects, burn the counter. Rule from the storyline: Laibon Vampires In this Storyline Event the Laibon are one step ahead of the other sects. Methuselahs that move one or more Laibon vampires into their ready region during their influence phase, can search their library for any card, reveal it to all players, and move it to their hand during their discard phase (shuffle afterwards). Thanks

Kevin M.

Abdul alHazred wrote: > Hi, > > Is a vampire who has been contested and is brought back into play > considered to be "moved into the ready region" and triggering the > storyline special rule for laibons to allow you to search for a card > if that vampire is a Laibon or is he out of play in the ready region? "during their influence phase" So, no. Kevin M., Prince of Las Vegas "Know your enemy and know yourself; in one-thousand battles you shall never be in peril." -- Sun Tzu, *The Art of War* "Contentment...Complacency...Catastrophe!" -- Joseph Chevalier Please visit VTESville daily! http://vtesville.myminicity.com/ Please buy my cards! http://shop.ebay.com/kjmergen/m.html

LSJ

Abdul alHazred wrote: > Hi, > > Is a vampire who has been contested and is brought back into play > considered to be "moved into the ready region" and triggering the > storyline special rule for laibons to allow you to search for a card > if that vampire is a Laibon or is he out of play in the ready region? The storyline rule is "during your influence phase", so winning a contest (which returns the Laibon to play during your untap phase) doesn't qualify. > On another note is a vampire who has a writ of Acceptance or an anarch > counter and is banished or in any other way moved into the > uncontrolled region considered to be a Camarilla/anarch when he is > "moved into the ready region"? No. He's still carrying the Writ, so he's still Camarilla. Non-Independent vampires cannot be anarch, by the rules. [ quoted text not captured ]

Abdul alHazred

> Is a vampire who has been contested and is brought back into play > considered to be "moved into the ready region" and triggering the > storyline special rule for laibons to allow you to search for a card > if that vampire is a Laibon or is he out of play in the ready region? The storyline rule is "during your influence phase", so winning a contest (which returns the Laibon to play during your untap phase) doesn't qualify. - Thank you, sorry. I mean does a vampire that is out of play and is returned into play considered to be "moved into the ready region" fulfilling _that requirement of the storyline special rule to be allowed to search for a card? > On another note is a vampire who has a writ of Acceptance or an anarch > counter and is banished or in any other way moved into the > uncontrolled region considered to be a Camarilla/anarch when he is > "moved into the ready region"? No. He's still carrying the Writ, so he's still Camarilla. Non- Independent vampires cannot be anarch, by the rules. - This is not so much concerning the storyline as per se, since the Mozambique allure isnt placed on the vampire and doesnt remain in play, but the question arose if it was a permanent marker that remained on the vampire and I wanted to still my curiosity in case this could prove useful in other decks. Thanks _____________ [ quoted text not captured ] > > Thanks- Dölj citerad text - > > - Visa citerad text -

LSJ

Abdul alHazred wrote: >> Is a vampire who has been contested and is brought back into play >> considered to be "moved into the ready region" and triggering the >> storyline special rule for laibons to allow you to search for a card >> if that vampire is a Laibon or is he out of play in the ready region? > > > > The storyline rule is "during your influence phase", so winning a > contest (which > returns the Laibon to play during your untap phase) doesn't qualify. > > - Thank you, sorry. I mean does a vampire that is out of play and is > returned into play considered to be "moved into the ready region" > fulfilling _that requirement of the storyline special rule to be > allowed to search for a card? It is moved to the ready region, yes. But that doesn't allow you to search for a card by the storyline special rule, since the storyline special rule specifies "during your influence phase". >> On another note is a vampire who has a writ of Acceptance or an anarch >> counter and is banished or in any other way moved into the >> uncontrolled region considered to be a Camarilla/anarch when he is >> "moved into the ready region"? > > No. He's still carrying the Writ, so he's still Camarilla. Non- > Independent > vampires cannot be anarch, by the rules. > > - This is not so much concerning the storyline as per se, since the > Mozambique allure isnt placed on the vampire and doesnt remain in > play, but the question arose if it was a permanent marker that > remained on the vampire and I wanted to still my curiosity in case > this could prove useful in other decks. He doesn't have a permanent marker. He lost the marker when he held the Writ. Seattle Committee: "If a vampire with an anarch counter changes sects, burn the counter." [ quoted text not captured ] >>> Thanks- D�lj citerad text - [ quoted text not captured ]

a-e

[ quoted text not captured ] I think that holding writ or being anarch were two different examples of the situation and question was will the originally laibon vampire that were banished after changing sect trigger the special rule... [ quoted text not captured ] > >>> Thanks- Dölj citerad text - [ quoted text not captured ]

qwesto

[ quoted text not captured ] The question wasn't about whether or not the vampire gets to keep the anarch counter when equipping a Writ. It was 'If a vampire who has an anarch counter (or a Writ of Acceptance), would it be considered an anarch vampire (or a camarilla vampire) when influenced up after a banishment?'

LSJ

a-e wrote: >> Abdul alHazred wrote: >>>> On another note is a vampire who has a writ of Acceptance or an anarch >>>> counter and is banished or in any other way moved into the >>>> uncontrolled region considered to be a Camarilla/anarch when he is >>>> "moved into the ready region"? > > I think that holding writ or being anarch were two different examples > of the situation and question was will the originally laibon vampire > that were banished after changing sect trigger the special rule... > Ah. That could be. Sure. Banishment won't shake off cards, counters, or even tokenless things. Everything is remembered, just like it is through a contestation.