Wake vs Form of Mist

CLA...@leeds.ac.uk (D.P. Hammersley) writes: >A situation has arisen in our group concerning the use of >'wake with evening's freshness' and 'form of mist' superior. >Basically what happens is this: >Player A takes an action (say a bleed) which player B reacts >to with a WwEF. Player A now plays a FoM at superior to end >combat and continue at +1 stealth... >..At this point can the same reacting vampire still using >the same WwEF still attempt to block if they have the >intercept to match the +1 stealth OR must a second WwEF be >played? We always used to play the latter but the card >actually says that the reacter may continue to react until >the current action is concluded. >So 2 cases: >1. The action ends when the FoM is played as a combat ends >and therefore a second WwEF must be played. >OR >2. When FoM is played, like the card says, 'the action is >continued at +1 stealth' and therefore the reacter may still >continue to attempt to block if they have the intercept. >Any views appreciated. The second. From: aa...@cats.ucsc.edu (Thomas R Wylie) Newsgroups: rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad Subject: Re: TOM: Q: Do not replace until after (multiple) combats Date: 5 May 1995 06:42:02 GMT Message-ID: <3ochbq$8...@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> L. Scott Johnson <sjoh...@math.scarolina.edu> wrote: >Q: which cards are replaced at this point? > 1. all cards. A combat ended, so all "do not replace" cards are replaced, even if Psyche or something is due to start another combat. >Q: In the case of Form of Mist, Anson can still block and play reaction > cards as if untapped (card text on WwEF), so he plays Enhanced Senses > for +1 intercept and re-blocks, right? Looks right, but I will check on that. After checking, the ruling was upheld: Newsgroups: rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad Subject: Design Team Rulings: 5/30/95 Date: 31 May 1995 22:12:08 GMT Message-ID: <3qipjo$b...@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> 3) If superior Form of Mist is used to continue the action, the minion that originally blocked the vampire may block it again as per the normal procedures. -- L. Scott Johnson (sjoh...@math.sc.edu) | "Criminal Lawyer" is redundant. http://www.math.sc.edu/~sjohnson | Graphics Specialist and V:tES Rulemonger. |

Hello all, A situation has arisen in our group concerning the use of 'wake with evening's freshness' and 'form of mist' superior. Basically what happens is this: Player A takes an action (say a bleed) which player B reacts to with a WwEF. Player A now plays a FoM at superior to end combat and continue at +1 stealth... ..At this point can the same reacting vampire still using the same WwEF still attempt to block if they have the intercept to match the +1 stealth OR must a second WwEF be played? We always used to play the latter but the card actually says that the reacter may continue to react until the current action is concluded. So 2 cases: 1. The action ends when the FoM is played as a combat ends and therefore a second WwEF must be played. OR 2. When FoM is played, like the card says, 'the action is continued at +1 stealth' and therefore the reacter may still continue to attempt to block if they have the intercept. Any views appreciated. Peter "I'll just say my secret magic word..."

Hello all, > >snip< > ..At this point can the same reacting vampire still using > the same WwEF still attempt to block if they have the > intercept to match the +1 stealth OR must a second WwEF be > played? We always used to play the latter but the card > actually says that the reacter may continue to react until > the current action is concluded. > > So 2 cases: >snip< > > 2. When FoM is played, like the card says, 'the action is > continued at +1 stealth' and therefore the reacter may still > continue to attempt to block if they have the intercept. this one. it's the same action, just with the combat circumvented. the reacting vampire can block all over again if he can find the intercept (or if he already had it, from a sport bike or js simm..erm...mr winthrop.. well, that's my view anyway. and in my game group, if i want a rule, i just say "i saw it on the net" and the other players go "oh, ok then.." heh...lucky i am honest, really.. O:) Salem Christ.... -- ********************************************************************** *** "....i try to laugh about it, hiding the tears in my eyes...." *** **********************************************************************