I was reading the errata list for, ahem, another thread when I came
across this errata for Form of Mist:
"The superior counts as an action modifier when played by an acting
vampire, so cannot be played more than once per action at superior."
[RTR 19980623]
So I got to wondering...
Suppose Chandler attempts to hunt;
Anneke plays The Second Tradition: Domain and blocks;
Chandler plays Form of Mist at superior;
Anneke plays Majesty at superior and pays to untap.
Can Anneke attempt to block again without any further
intercept?
I say yes, since the errata for Form of Mist indicate that
it is the same action, and from 6.2.2:
"Note that all modifications made to a minion's stealth
or intercept remain in effect for the duration of the
action."
If that was too easy, then how about this one:
Chandler bleeds;
Watenda blocks;
Chandler plays Form of Mist at superior;
Watenda cancels that strike (ability);
Can Chandler not play a second Form of Mist
at superior from his hand in light of the fact
that "it cannot be played more than once
per action at superior?"
- Jason Bell
Jason Bell wrote:
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Don't know, But I have another question for Form of Mist
If my vampire play a Form of Mist at superior, and the oposing vampire
plays a Psyche! at superior, what happen ?
Jacob
Jason Bell wrote:
> I was reading the errata list for, ahem, another thread when I came
> across this errata for Form of Mist:
>
> "The superior counts as an action modifier when played by an acting
> vampire, so cannot be played more than once per action at superior."
> [RTR 19980623]
>
> So I got to wondering...
>
> Suppose Chandler attempts to hunt;
> Anneke plays The Second Tradition: Domain and blocks;
> Chandler plays Form of Mist at superior;
> Anneke plays Majesty at superior and pays to untap.
>
> Can Anneke attempt to block again without any further
> intercept?
> I say yes, since the errata for Form of Mist indicate that
> it is the same action, and from 6.2.2:
>
> "Note that all modifications made to a minion's stealth
> or intercept remain in effect for the duration of the
> action."
Correct. (And this answer would be the same even without the
errata on Form of Mist).
> If that was too easy, then how about this one:
>
> Chandler bleeds;
> Watenda blocks;
> Chandler plays Form of Mist at superior;
> Watenda cancels that strike (ability);
>
> Can Chandler not play a second Form of Mist
> at superior from his hand in light of the fact
> that "it cannot be played more than once
> per action at superior?"
Correct (due to the errata).
--
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Jacob wrote:
> [36 lines of un-alluded-to quoted text snipped]> If my vampire play a Form of Mist at superior, and the oposing vampire
> plays a Psyche! at superior, what happen ?
Combat begins. The action continuance is lost. See the online rulings.
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LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:<3B29E610...@white-wolf.com>...
> Jacob wrote:
> > [36 lines of un-alluded-to quoted text snipped]
> > If my vampire play a Form of Mist at superior, and the oposing vampire
> > plays a Psyche! at superior, what happen ?
>
> Combat begins. The action continuance is lost. See the online rulings.
So lets say I am bums rushing someone, they block to prevent me from
getting the manuver.
1) When do I replace the bums rush, as soon as the action is
successfully blocked, or not until combat is over?(since you do not
pay costs for unsuccessful actions, is that part of the cost?)
2) If, during that combat, as my strike I play Form of Mist, will
combat end, putting me back to the origional, Bums Rush action and
begin a new combat?(including my manuver?)
> Don't know, But I have another question for Form of Mist
> If my vampire play a Form of Mist at superior, and the oposing vampire
> plays a Psyche! at superior, what happen ?
>
I have ANOTHER question about form of mist, that came up in our game
last night. Angus has one blood. Angus does fifth tradition
hospitality. Angus gets blocked and plays a combat card. Angus gets
punched for one. Other vamp presses. Second round, Angus now has a
form of mist and plays it. He no longer has the blood to pay for the
fifth tradition. We ruled that the action just fizzled and the card was
lost... correct?
Tig
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Actually I looked this up. The guy who was kibitzing our game (I forget
his name from the tournament) turned out to be correct. From the White
Wolf Official Clarifications, Rulings, and Errata page under "Actions":
"If a minion cannot pay the cost of an action when the action resolves,
the action continues with no effect ('fizzles').
[RTR 19961113]"
Fred
"LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote
> Jason Bell wrote:
> > If that was too easy, then how about this one:
> >
> > Chandler bleeds;
> > Watenda blocks;
> > Chandler plays Form of Mist at superior;
> > Watenda cancels that strike (ability);
> >
> > Can Chandler not play a second Form of Mist
> > at superior from his hand in light of the fact
> > that "it cannot be played more than once
> > per action at superior?"
>
> Correct (due to the errata).
Oh dear.
Alright, how about this.
Does superior Majesty's untap ability modify an
acting minion's action in the same sense that Freak
Drive does? If so, does superior Majesty fall under this
Watenda ruling as well?
- Jason Bell
"Aaron" <roans...@yahoo.com> wrote
> LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote[ quoted text not captured ]
Another question:
If the Bum's Rush is blocked, is the card replaced?
If so, what happens if I Form of Mist back into the
Bum's Rush (or Arson, or any action that has the
Do Not Replace advisory)?
Form of Mist, mmmmm trouble.
- Jason Bell
Jason Bell wrote:
>
> "Aaron" <roans...@yahoo.com> wrote
> > LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote
> > > Jacob wrote:
> > > > [36 lines of un-alluded-to quoted text snipped]
> > > > If my vampire play a Form of Mist at superior, and the oposing vampire
> > > > plays a Psyche! at superior, what happen ?
> > >
> > > Combat begins. The action continuance is lost. See the online rulings.
> >
> > So lets say I am bums rushing someone, they block to prevent me from
> > getting the manuver.
> >
> > 1) When do I replace the bums rush, as soon as the action is
> > successfully blocked, or not until combat is over?(since you do not
> > pay costs for unsuccessful actions, is that part of the cost?)
> >
> > 2) If, during that combat, as my strike I play Form of Mist, will
> > combat end, putting me back to the origional, Bums Rush action and
> > begin a new combat?(including my manuver?)
>
> Another question:
> If the Bum's Rush is blocked, is the card replaced?
No.
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No. The nly similarity between FoM and Majesty is that
they are both S:CE effects. FoM does not untap the
striker.
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