Cam and Sab titles and Clan Impersonation (LSJ)

We had a question the other night and was wondering if someone and hoepfully LSJ could answer it. What happens if a Cam or Sab vamp with a title such as Prince uses Clan Impersonation. Do they lose their title, keep it but have no votes (for contesting a title), lose the title but have votes ala Independant vamps and so on. Thanx in advance.

In message <96dcffb8.01122...@posting.google.com>, Kevin Masterson <umbr...@rocketmail.com> writes: >What happens if a Cam or Sab vamp with a title such as Prince uses >Clan Impersonation. Do they lose their title, keep it but have no >votes (for contesting a title), lose the title but have votes ala >Independant vamps and so on. The title remains there, but is effectively dormant. When they change back to an appropriate clan/sect, it reactivates. If, in the meantime, someone claims that (contestable) title, the CI-ed vampire immediately loses theirs. e.g. A Ventrue Justicar CIs to Gangrel. The title is dormant, until they change back to Ventrue. (Because it requires a clan.) The Prince of Paris changes clan to Sabbat. The title is dormant. Dimple is elected Prince of Paris. The CIed Sabbat vampire immediately gives up their dormant title so even if they change back, they don't get it. The Lasombra Archbishop of New York CIs to Ravnos. (Dormant.) They then CI to Tzimisce. Because none of the Sabbat titles are tied to a clan, just a sect, the title reactivates. -- James Coupe PGP 0x5D623D5D It's been a long road, getting from there to here EBD690ECD7A1FB457CA213D7E It's been a long time, and my time is finally near 668C3695D623D5D I will see my dream come alive at last, I will touch the sky And they're not gonna hold me down no more, no they're not gonna change my mind

James Coupe wrote: > > In message <96dcffb8.01122...@posting.google.com>, Kevin > Masterson <umbr...@rocketmail.com> writes: > >What happens if a Cam or Sab vamp with a title such as Prince uses > >Clan Impersonation. Do they lose their title, keep it but have no > >votes (for contesting a title), lose the title but have votes ala > >Independant vamps and so on. > > The title remains there, but is effectively dormant. > > When they change back to an appropriate clan/sect, it reactivates. If, > in the meantime, someone claims that (contestable) title, the CI-ed > vampire immediately loses theirs. Correct. See section 10 of the rules. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/