[LSJ] free states rant and independant votes

the card says that titled vampires gets one less vote during this referendum, so that means that independent titles like "x vampire" has 2 votes, and anarch titles gets one less vote too, right? the question comes because here the people who use it believes that the card refers to titled vampires only to camarilla and sabbat titles

On 30 Nov 2004 19:45:22 -0800, ThE_OnLy_VipeR <fina...@hotmail.com> wrote: [ quoted text not captured ] You answered the question yourself. "1 vote" and "2 votes" are titles just like the Baron title is a title. Free States Rant makes each and every ttle worth one less vote, including the Camarilla, Sabbat, Independent and Anarch titles. -- Bye, Daneel

On 30 Nov 2004 19:45:22 -0800, fina...@hotmail.com (ThE_OnLy_VipeR) scrawled: >the card says that titled vampires gets one less vote during this >referendum, so that means that independent titles like "x vampire" has >2 votes, and anarch titles gets one less vote too, right? correct. Free States Rant text: "In this referendum, titles are worth 1 less vote each (even in the prisci sub-referendum)" Rulebook: 10.3 "Some Independent vampires may start with votes, as listed on card text. Treat these vampires as if they had titles of their own." Rulebook, "New Rules" "Baron is a title that can only be held by an anarch. A ready baron gets 2 votes." "Rulebook" here refers to the Anarch Expansion edition of the rulebook. At the time i downloaded the pdf the BH one was not yet available. salem domain:canberra http://www.geocities.com/salem_christ.geo/vtes.htm (replace "hotmail" with "yahoo" to email)

"Daneel" <dan...@eposta.hu> wrote in message news:opsibiu9...@news.chello.hu... > On 30 Nov 2004 19:45:22 -0800, ThE_OnLy_VipeR <fina...@hotmail.com> > wrote: > > > the card says that titled vampires gets one less vote during this > > referendum, so that means that independent titles like "x vampire" has > > 2 votes, and anarch titles gets one less vote too, right? > > > > the question comes because here the people who use it believes that > > the card refers to titled vampires only to camarilla and sabbat titles > > You answered the question yourself. "1 vote" and "2 votes" are > titles just like the Baron title is a title. Free States Rant > makes each and every [title] worth one less vote, including the > Camarilla, Sabbat, Independent and Anarch titles. Correct. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. V:TES homepage: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/ Though effective, appear to be ineffective -- Sun Tzu

On 30 Nov 2004 19:45:22 -0800, fina...@hotmail.com (ThE_OnLy_VipeR) wrote: >the card says that titled vampires gets one less vote during this >referendum, so that means that independent titles like "x vampire" has >2 votes, and anarch titles gets one less vote too, right? This is explicitly answered in the FAQ. Section 3.35 Posted on this newsgroup again on the 30th of November. http://www.thelasombra.com/vtes_faq.htm 3.35 Which vampires are titled? Which vampires have fewer votes in a Free States Rant vote? Sabbat titles: Bishop Archbishop Priscus Cardinal Camarilla titles: Primogen Prince Justicar Inner Circle Independent titles: 1 vote 2 votes Anarch titles: Baron These are only for cards that come into play with their titles. Any other card that grants votes must explicitly state that it is granting a title for the votes to count as a title. Is a vampire "titled" if he has votes from Legendary Vampire, Bloodbath, Legacy of Pander, Political Struggle, or Firebrand? Not unless they have (or gain) one of the titles listed above. Also see section 10 of the rulebook: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/rulebook/