rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

Question on Propaganda

5 messages from 3 participants · 21 March 2001
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tetragrammaton

A question about the superior version of Propaganda. The text reads "<as above> and the methuselah you are bleeding taps one of his or her minions". I suppose that effect applies only if the action is succesful, right? However, if this is right, the (official) text is confusing for me: should not it reads: "<as above> and if the action is succesful, the methuselah you bled taps one of his or her minions"? Just my thought Emiliano, Prince of Rome -- Visit my site! http://web.tiscalinet.it/Vampirismus

Halcyan 2

>A question about the superior version of Propaganda. >The text reads "<as above> and the methuselah you are bleeding taps >one of his or her minions". >I suppose that effect applies only if the action is succesful, right? >However, if this is right, the (official) text is confusing for me: >should not it reads: >"<as above> and if the action is succesful, the methuselah you bled taps one >of >his or her minions"? Correct. The minion is only tapped if the action is successful. I have no idea why the text wasn't made more clear though. Halcyan 2

LSJ

[ quoted text not captured ] Because it is an action card. *All* action cards are worded this way, which is completely clear. Computer Hacking doesn't need to say "(D) Bleed, you prey burns an additional pool if the action is successful" Arson doesn't need to say "(D) burn a location if the action is successful". Etc. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

tetragrammaton

"LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> ha scritto nel messaggio news:3AB89643...@white-wolf.com... > Halcyan 2 wrote: > > > > >A question about the superior version of Propaganda. > > >The text reads "<as above> and the methuselah you are bleeding taps > > >one of his or her minions". > > >I suppose that effect applies only if the action is succesful, right? > > >However, if this is right, the (official) text is confusing for me: > > >should not it reads: > > >"<as above> and if the action is succesful, the methuselah you bled taps one > > >of > > >his or her minions"? > > > > Correct. The minion is only tapped if the action is successful. I have no idea > > why the text wasn't made more clear though. > > Because it is an action card. *All* action cards are worded this way, which > is completely clear. > > Computer Hacking doesn't need to say "(D) Bleed, you prey burns an additional > pool if the action is successful" > > Arson doesn't need to say "(D) burn a location if the action is successful". > > Etc. Forgive me, Scott, but i'm referring to the "you are bleeding" part of the text, that seem to refer "while" the action is in progress. So: <as above> and the methuselah taps one of his or her minion". Would not be clearer this way? Best Emiliano, vekn Prince of Rome [ quoted text not captured ]

LSJ

tetragrammaton wrote: > > "LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> ha scritto nel messaggio > news:3AB89643...@white-wolf.com... > > Halcyan 2 wrote: > > > > > > >A question about the superior version of Propaganda. > > > >The text reads "<as above> and the methuselah you are bleeding taps > > > >one of his or her minions". [...] > Forgive me, Scott, but i'm referring to the "you are bleeding" part of the > text, > that seem to refer "while" the action is in progress. It may, or it may refer to "when" the action is resolved Since it's not used in the context of timing, it makes no difference, however. It serves only to refer to "who" is to tap a minion. See also Foreshadowing of Destruction - if you are deflected to a Methuselah with more than 9 pool, you don't get the bonus, even though you may have played the card "while" you were bleeding a Methuselah who had only 5 pool. > So: > <as above> and the methuselah taps one of his or her minion". > Would not be clearer this way? I don't see that as any clearer, since you've merely removed text that did nothing other than identify the Methuselah. The removal also increases the likelyhood of questions about the effect a Deflection would have (regarding whose minion is to be tapped). [ quoted text not captured ]