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Just to make sure I need to know if vampires i ashheap are controlled. The reason I ask is because Gisela burn uncontrolled Vampires and after that I want to take control of them with Daemonic Possession from the ashheap. I am also in need to know what "since your last turn" refer to. Does that mean that Daemonic possession cant be used if I burn a vampire in my own turn? Thanks Jk

On 16 Jul 2002 22:00:10 -0700, lizard...@hotmail.com (lizardusrex) wrote: > Just to make sure I need to know if vampires i ashheap are controlled. Vampires in the ashheap are not controlled. > The reason I ask is because Gisela burn uncontrolled Vampires and > after that I want to take control of them with Daemonic Possession > from the ashheap. Vampires that Gisela burns were never controlled, and are thus not legal targets of Daemonic Possession. "[nec] Only usable when a minion controlled by another Methuselah has been burned since your last turn." > I am also in need to know what "since your last turn" refer to. Does > that mean that Daemonic possession cant be used if I burn a vampire in > my own turn? Think back to the last time you ended your turn ("I transfer, discard blah, and I'm done."). Everything that happened after that is "since your last turn", including things that you have done this turn. Trey

> > Just to make sure I need to know if vampires i ashheap are controlled. > > Vampires in the ashheap are not controlled. But they are not in the "uncontrolled region" either. So, no sugar. Orpheus

>> > Just to make sure I need to know if vampires i ashheap are controlled. >> >> Vampires in the ashheap are not controlled. > >But they are not in the "uncontrolled region" either. So, no sugar. False logic. Vampires in my crypt or in that shoebox back at home aren't in the "uncontrolled region" either. So does that make them "controlled?" "Controlled" in Jyhad/VTES has a rather specific meaning: (roughly) brought into play by transferring enough blood to the vampire while it was in the uncontrolled region or by some other special means (Soul Gem, Possession, etc.). Halcyan 2

[ quoted text not captured ] Controlled: in the controlled region (equivalent to "in play"). -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

halc...@aol.com (Halcyan 2) wrote in message news:<20020717043715...@mb-da.aol.com>... [ quoted text not captured ] More clear : minions in your controled region are controled. Minions elsewhere are not. Kindred SPIRIT

Are vampires in torpor not in the uncontroled region? Is this like a fake bloodhuntless diablerie? Tim Bowen Columbus,OH

In message <ah7epu$qefjk$1...@ID-153359.news.dfncis.de>, Timothy F. Bowen <TimB...@columbus.rr.com> writes: >Are vampires in torpor not in the uncontroled region? No. There are three "bits". 1) Uncontrolled. 2) Controlled, but in torpor. 3) Controlled, but not in torpor. > Is this like a fake >bloodhuntless diablerie? No. -- James Coupe PGP 0x5D623D5D You don't need to hear it but I'm dried up EBD690ECD7A1FB457CA2 and sick to death of love. 13D7E668C3695D623D5D

>More clear : minions in your controled region are controled. Minions >elsewhere are not. Well, my point was just that "controlled" has a special meaning in Jyhad/VTES and I was trying to elaborate. Anyway, I figured that simply explaining how minions in your "controlled region" are "controlled" might be viewed by some as a circular answer. (And the "controlled region" is where you place minions that are "controlled"). But you still get my point... =) Halcyan 2