1. Minion A is acting and is blocked by Minion B.
After the ensuing combat, Minion C plays Hidden Lurker and enters
combat with B. Minion C uses Rowan Ring to strike: send B to torpor. C
then uses Amaranth to diablerise B, in response to which B plays
Undead Persistence. What happens?
Would the result be different if the situation was the following: B is
acting and is blocked by C, who strikes: sends B to torpor with Rowan
Ring - B then plays Undead Persistence, in response to which C plays
Amaranth?
Finally: Minion B is sent to torpor by C's strike with Rowan Ring, and
B plays Undead Persistence. Combat continues and ends, following which
B goes to torpor. Could C then play Amaranth after the end of the
combat? at the end of the last round of combat?
Undead Persistence
Type: Combat
Discipline: Fortitude
[for] Only usable when this vampire should go into torpor. This
vampire gets an optional press and will not go to torpor until combat
ends (although he or she is still considered wounded and can be burned
as normal). If three rounds of combat pass with no cards played,
combat ends. This vampire is sent into torpor after combat.
[FOR] Prevent 2 damage.
Amaranth
Type: Combat
Only usable by a vampire who can commit diablerie. Only usable when
the opposing vampire should go to torpor. Diablerize the opposing
vampire instead. Not usable by a vampire being burned or going to
torpor.
2. The wording of Disguised Weapon, Concealed Weapon and Pack Alpha
(inferior) differ slightly. Can any of these cards be played by a
minion when you do not have a weapon/animal retainer in your hand?
Concealed Weapon
Type: Combat
Only usable before range is determined.
This minion equips with a non-unique weapon card from your hand
(requirements and cost apply as normal). The weapon cannot cost 3 or
more pool or inflict (with a regular strike) aggravated damage or 4 or
more damage.
Disguised Weapon
Type: Combat
Discipline: Obfuscate
Only usable before range is chosen if you have a weapon card in your
hand.
[obf] Equip this vampire with that weapon (and pay cost to equip as
normal).
[OBF] As above, but usable when choosing a strike.
Pack Alpha
Type: Combat
Discipline: Animalism
A vampire may play only one Pack Alpha each round.
[ani] This vampire employs an animal retainer from your hand before
range is determined. Pay cost as normal.
[ANI] Burn an animal retainer employed by this vampire and put this
card on this vampire. The minion with this card gets +1 strength. A
minion may have only one Pack Alpha.
3. Does Rowan Ring count as a "weapon that inflicts aggravated damage"
for the purposes of Concealed Weapon?
Thanks, Christian
On 11 Mar, 12:09, cnislev <c.nis...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 3. Does Rowan Ring count as a "weapon that inflicts aggravated damage"
> for the purposes of Concealed Weapon?
No, it count as unique
cnislev wrote:
> 1. Minion A is acting and is blocked by Minion B.
> After the ensuing combat, Minion C plays Hidden Lurker and enters
> combat with B. Minion C uses Rowan Ring to strike: send B to torpor. C
> then uses Amaranth to diablerise B, in response to which B plays
> Undead Persistence. What happens?
B may not play Undead Persistence, because they have been diablerised.
> Would the result be different if the situation was the following: B is
> acting and is blocked by C, who strikes: sends B to torpor with Rowan
> Ring - B then plays Undead Persistence, in response to which C plays
> Amaranth?
C may not play Amaranth, because B is not going to torpor at that time.
> Finally: Minion B is sent to torpor by C's strike with Rowan Ring, and
> B plays Undead Persistence. Combat continues and ends, following which
> B goes to torpor. Could C then play Amaranth after the end of the
> combat? at the end of the last round of combat?
Amaranth is a combat card. It cannot be played after combat ends.
> 2. The wording of Disguised Weapon, Concealed Weapon and Pack Alpha
> (inferior) differ slightly. Can any of these cards be played by a
> minion when you do not have a weapon/animal retainer in your hand?
No they may not.
> 3. Does Rowan Ring count as a "weapon that inflicts aggravated damage"
> for the purposes of Concealed Weapon?
No it doesn't, but it is unique, as noted by Acheron. So it may not be
Concealed.
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Salem wrote:
> cnislev wrote:>> 1. Minion A is acting and is blocked by Minion B.
>> After the ensuing combat, Minion C plays Hidden Lurker and enters
>> combat with B. Minion C uses Rowan Ring to strike: send B to torpor. C
>> then uses Amaranth to diablerise B, in response to which B plays
>> Undead Persistence. What happens?>
> B may not play Undead Persistence, because they have been diablerised.
Correct.
>> Would the result be different if the situation was the following: B is
>> acting and is blocked by C, who strikes: sends B to torpor with Rowan
>> Ring - B then plays Undead Persistence, in response to which C plays
>> Amaranth?>
> C may not play Amaranth, because B is not going to torpor at that time.
Correct.
>> Finally: Minion B is sent to torpor by C's strike with Rowan Ring, and
>> B plays Undead Persistence. Combat continues and ends, following which
>> B goes to torpor. Could C then play Amaranth after the end of the
>> combat? at the end of the last round of combat?>
> Amaranth is a combat card. It cannot be played after combat ends.
Correct. Undead Persistence doesn't allow the vampire to go to torpor during
that combat. So the combat ends with the vampire still ready. And then, after
combat ends, the vampire goes to torpor.
>> 2. The wording of Disguised Weapon, Concealed Weapon and Pack Alpha
>> (inferior) differ slightly. Can any of these cards be played by a
>> minion when you do not have a weapon/animal retainer in your hand?>
> No they may not.
Correct.
>> 3. Does Rowan Ring count as a "weapon that inflicts aggravated damage"
>> for the purposes of Concealed Weapon?>
> No it doesn't, but it is unique, as noted by Acheron. So it may not be
> Concealed.
Correct.