[LSJ] Taste of Vitae & add'l strikes (was Re: LSJ: Weather Control/Elysium Q)

I have a question about the effect of Taste of Vitae in relation to additional strikes. I believe the answer is implied in the ruling cited below, but I'll ask it explicitly to be sure. If Taste of Vitae is played after additional strikes, does the Tasting minion gain the total blood lost by its opponent to all strikes during that round? Thanks, -- Joe Meyerson *********** From: LSJ (vte...@wizards.com) Subject: Re: LSJ: Weather Control/Elysium Q Newsgroups: rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad View: Complete Thread (4 articles) | Original Format Date: 1998/03/30 daniel frey wrote: > Recently we switched to announcing "pre-range" as a combat phase. A Yep. We've been saying "I have nothing to play before range" for quite some time now. If any of these other timing stages start getting used frequently, we may have to declare more of them. > friend and I were trying to figure out how many phases of combat there > were in one round of combat. Obviously we missed a few. So can we make > the unexpergated list of combat phases? > > 1. Before Combat begins. (i.e. obedience) > 2. As combat is entered (Thoughts betrayed) > 3. Beginning of Combat (Weather Control) > 4. Before Range is Determined (Elysium, Illusions of Kindred, Torn > Signpost) > 5. Range Determination 5b. Post-Range (Immortal Grapple, Blood to Water) > 6. First Strike > 7. Strike 6+7 -> 6. Strike declaration #1 > 8. Strike Resolution > 9. Damage Prevention These operate slightly differently than two distinct steps, but this is good enough for this list. 9. Heal Damage/Prevent Destruction (preventing damage is done only in step 8). If unreadied (burned/torpored), go to 21. 9a. Post-strike (Taste of Vitae) > 10. Additional Strike #1 > 11. Strike Resolution > 12. Damage Prevention > 13. Additional Strike #2 > 14. Strike Resolution > 15. Damage Prevention > 16. Additional Additional Strikes > 17. Strike Resolution > 18. Damage Prevention 10-18. Better stated as: 10. Repeat steps 6-9a for each additional strike. > 19. Presses (if yes goto line 4) 19. Press-step (Pulled Fangs) 20. Presses (if continue goto 4) 21. Combat ends (Amaranth, sometimes Pulled Fangs) 22. Post-combat (superior Psyche, Hidden Lurker, Fast Reaction) > Seems to have gotten out-of-hand, doesn't it? Kinda makes me want to > start using Thoughts Betrayed. > But I know I gotta be missing some other phases. -- L. Scott Johnson (vte...@wizards.com) Official VtES Net.Rep for Wizards of the Coast. (*) - Subject to review by Rules Team

"Joe Meyerson" asked: > If Taste of Vitae is played after additional strikes, does the Tasting > minion gain the total blood lost by its opponent to all strikes during > that round? Yes. Relevant card text: This vampire gains an amount of blood equal to the amount lost by the opposing vampire to damage during this round of combat. Online Card Text here : http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/Cardlist.html Taste of Vitae [Jyhad, V:TES, SW] Cardtype: Combat Only usable after strike resolution. This vampire gains an amount of blood equal to the amount lost by the opposing vampire to damage during this round of combat. Not usable by a vampire going into torpor. Blood loss counted by a previous Taste of Vitae is not counted again. Carpe noctem. Lasombra http://www.TheLasombra.com -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG

"Joe Meyerson" <joeme...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:2f7565d7.02040...@posting.google.com... > I have a question about the effect of Taste of Vitae in relation to > additional strikes. I believe the answer is implied in the ruling > cited below, but I'll ask it explicitly to be sure. > > If Taste of Vitae is played after additional strikes, does the Tasting > minion gain the total blood lost by its opponent to all strikes during > that round? Yes. Current Taste of Vitae cardtext (from the Sabbat War printing): "Only usable after strike resolution. This vampire gains an amount of blood equal to the amount lost by the opposing vampire to damage during this round of combat. Not usable by a vampire going into torpor. Blood loss counted by a previous Taste of Vitae is not counted again." You can play it after any strike resolution in a round, and it'll count all the damage-blood-loss the opposing vampire has had up to that point (as long as it hasn't been counted by an earlier Taste - multiple Tastes the same round are fine, you just don't get any double-counted benefits). Josh mm, tasty

The Lasombra wrote: > "Joe Meyerson" asked: > > If Taste of Vitae is played after additional strikes, does the Tasting > > minion gain the total blood lost by its opponent to all strikes during > > that round? > > Yes. > > Relevant card text: > > This vampire gains an amount of blood equal to the amount lost by > the opposing vampire to damage during this round of combat. Correct. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

On 5 Apr 2002 11:58:30 -0800, joeme...@yahoo.com (Joe Meyerson) wrote: >5b. Post-Range (Immortal Grapple, Blood to Water) Ah I find another card changed for no good reason, and with no actual reprint in sight. This is ridiculous. T

[ quoted text not captured ] What change? Neither BtW or IG areplayable at long, so how can they be played before range is determined.

Talo...@nospam.hotmail.com wrote in message news:<3cb38b17.52731771@news>... [ quoted text not captured ] ?? No reprint in sight? An entire base set is being produced right now for release in July... Its being called the Camarilla Set. Where have you been? > This is ridiculous. > Your post? I agree... Regards, DaveZ Atom Weaver

atomweaver wrote: > > Talo...@nospam.hotmail.com wrote in message news:<3cb38b17.52731771@news>... > > On 5 Apr 2002 11:58:30 -0800, joeme...@yahoo.com (Joe Meyerson) > > wrote: > > > > >5b. Post-Range (Immortal Grapple, Blood to Water) > > > > > > Ah I find another card changed for no good reason, and with no actual > > reprint in sight. > > > ?? No reprint in sight? An entire base set is being produced right > now for release in July... Its being called the Camarilla Set. Where > have you been? I believe he means "in sight" - as in no reprint to be found to hold up in the viewing range of his eyes. [ quoted text not captured ]

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