Just to confirm, when a vampire takes over an action with M1kF, it only
matters that the action was legal for the original acting vampire, right?
(Assuming that the Masking vampire is not specifically prohibited from
taking that action, ala Beast, or is trying to take over an innate action,
like the Garou's rush.)
So if Gilbert Duane uses sup GtU on Didi Myers, Normal can take over the
action and it will be successful if unblocked?
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Justin Fang wrote:
>
> Just to confirm, when a vampire takes over an action with M1kF, it only
> matters that the action was legal for the original acting vampire, right?
> (Assuming that the Masking vampire is not specifically prohibited from
> taking that action, ala Beast, or is trying to take over an innate action,
> like the Garou's rush.)
>
> So if Gilbert Duane uses sup GtU on Didi Myers, Normal can take over the
> action and it will be successful if unblocked?
Correct, except that this action will fizzle when it succeeds
unless the target is younger than Normal (i.e., Normal has
enough skill cards or other effects to raise his age above Didi's).
Precedent: Normal masking a Gangrel's Ritual Challenge could
succeed, but the successful action would fizzle, since he is
not an "acting Gangrel", as required by card text. [LSJ 970214]
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On VTES-L, Robert Goudie <robert...@STUDIO.DISNEY.COM> writes:
> >>So if Gilbert Duane uses sup GtU on Didi Myers, Normal can take over the
> >>action and it will be successful if unblocked?
>
> >Correct, except that this action will fizzle when it succeeds
> >unless the target is younger than Normal (i.e., Normal has
> >enough skill cards or other effects to raise his age above Didi's).
>
> >Precedent: Normal masking a Gangrel's Ritual Challenge could
> >succeed, but the successful action would fizzle, since he is
> >not an "acting Gangrel", as required by card text. [LSJ
> >970214]
>> Oh, geez. Now maybe I'm getting confused. How is the
> Normal/Gangrel Ritual issue different from Normal masking a
> Prince's 5th Tradition action? Or is it?
It is different because of card text.
Both Ritual Challenge and 5th Tradition have requirements as
to who can attempt the action: Ritual requires a Gangrel and
5th Tradition requires a Prince/Justicar.
Mask gets around these requirements (which is why Normal can
use Mask to assume either action).
But, Ritual's card text says: "put this card on the acting Gangrel".
At the time that would happen (when the action succeeds), there is
no acting Gangrel, so the action fizzles.
5th Tradition, on the other hand, says: "Choose a controlled vampire",
which Normal can do. So the action works as usual.
Govern (back to the original point), says: "A younger, uncontrolled
vampire gains 3 blood". If the selected uncontrolled vampire is not
younger when the action resolves, then the action fizzles.
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