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Anarch and Banishment

4 messages from 3 participants · 25 February 2005
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Morgan Vening

I'm curious how Banishment interacts with Anarchs who used the 'base action' rule. I'm assuming because it doesn't explicitly state all trait changes remain (like it does for cards, etc), that re-influencing the vampire means it's no longer Anarch. Same would apply for an Into the Fire. And technically, most of the title gains, like Praxis/Crusade (Fee Stakes and Of Noble Blood excepted) So, the questions are (for LSJ-ease), when a 'Banishment'ed vampire reinfluences into play... - does an action-gained Anarch lose that status? - does an Into the Fire gained sect switch lose that status? - does a prince via Praxis Seizure lose his title? Morgan Vening Banishment Type: Political Action Political Card - Worth 1 Vote. Called by any vampire at +1 stealth. Choose a younger ready vampire. Successful referendum means that the chosen vampire is moved to the uncontrolled region (place him or her face down). The vampire is uncontrolled. The vampire's blood counters, master cards and minion cards stay with that vampire, with any counters they have on them (they are out of play as long as the vampire remains uncontrolled).

Morgan Vening

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LSJ

Morgan Vening wrote: > I'm curious how Banishment interacts with Anarchs who used the 'base > action' rule. I'm assuming because it doesn't explicitly state all > trait changes remain (like it does for cards, etc), that > re-influencing the vampire means it's no longer Anarch. Same would > apply for an Into the Fire. And technically, most of the title gains, > like Praxis/Crusade (Fee Stakes and Of Noble Blood excepted) No. Banishment works like contesting in that regard -- the effects are remembered. > So, the questions are (for LSJ-ease), when a 'Banishment'ed vampire > reinfluences into play... > - does an action-gained Anarch lose that status? No. > - does an Into the Fire gained sect switch lose that status? No. > - does a prince via Praxis Seizure lose his title? No.

Colin McGuigan

Morgan Vening wrote: > I'm curious how Banishment interacts with Anarchs who used the 'base > action' rule. I'm assuming because it doesn't explicitly state all > trait changes remain (like it does for cards, etc), that > re-influencing the vampire means it's no longer Anarch. Same would > apply for an Into the Fire. And technically, most of the title gains, > like Praxis/Crusade (Fee Stakes and Of Noble Blood excepted) > > So, the questions are (for LSJ-ease), when a 'Banishment'ed vampire > reinfluences into play... > - does an action-gained Anarch lose that status? > - does an Into the Fire gained sect switch lose that status? > - does a prince via Praxis Seizure lose his title? No to all of the above. The only things that would cause such a loss is a trip through the ash heap, crypt, or library -- if an vampire seizes Praxis, is banished, and then Kaymakli Nightmares is played, even were the same card to make its way back to the controlled region, it would no longer be a Prince. Ditto for a prince that is killed and then Possessed. Also, I believe that tapped/not tapped isn't remembered; a tapped vampire who is banished comes out untapped, as do any cards that are on him that are tapped (eg, Corporal Reservoir). --Colin McGuigan