LSJ: few questions

Does strength/hand damage effect strikes that do damage but dont specify that they are hand strikes? ie:corine marcon(+1 strength) and fleshcraft (strike:1 damage...) ? Would a tradiion:accounting (add 3 blood from bank to uncontrolled) and a GTU superior (add 3 blood etc) count as the same action, and thus fall under no repeat actions rule? [different action card, but same action it would seem] Is there no limit to the number of cardinals [like there is for justicars/clan] you can benedict into creation, just the cap limit? Thanks, T

"Talonz51" <Talo...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:3bc61042.159683621@news... > > Does strength/hand damage effect strikes that do damage but dont > specify that they are hand strikes? No. > ie:corine marcon(+1 strength) and > fleshcraft (strike:1 damage...) ? Fleshcraft does 1 damage. No more, no less. > Would a tradiion:accounting (add 3 blood from bank to uncontrolled) > and a GTU superior (add 3 blood etc) count as the same action, and > thus fall under no repeat actions rule? [different action card, but > same action it would seem] They are different actions. They have the same effect, but as they effect is not one of the defined actions types, it is not prohibited by the tournament rule of "No Repeat Actions". The only action types are listed in section 6.4.1 here: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/veknRules.html Bleed Hunt Equip Employ retainer Recruit ally Political action Leave torpor Rescue a vampire from torpor Diablerize a vampire in torpor > Is there no limit to the number of cardinals [like there is for > justicars/clan] you can benedict into creation, just the cap limit? Just the capacity limit. All of the Sabbat vampires in play with a capacity of 7 or higher may be cardinals. Carpe noctem. Lasombra http://www.TheLasombra.com -- Posted from rr-163-54-80.atl.mediaone.net [24.163.54.80] via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG

"The Lasombra" <thela...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:5773b50d0599d335017...@mygate.mailgate.org... > The only action types are listed in section 6.4.1 here: > > http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/veknRules.html > > Bleed > Hunt > Equip > Employ retainer > Recruit ally > Political action > Leave torpor > Rescue a vampire from torpor > Diablerize a vampire in torpor > How about rescuing or diablerizing different vampires during the same turn? Or do the items basically get "crossed off" the above list after you take those specific actions during a turn? Kevin M., Prince of Madison, WI (remove PLEASENOSPAMME for direct reply) "Know your enemy, and know yourself; in one-thousand battles you shall never be in peril." -- Sun Tzu, _The_Art_of_War_ "Contentment... Complacency... Catastrophe!" -- Joseph Chevalier

In message <1Lpx7.55089$My2.27...@news1.mntp1.il.home.com>, Kevin M. <kjme...@PLEASENOSPAMMEhome.com> writes >> Bleed >> Hunt >> Equip >> Employ retainer >> Recruit ally >> Political action >> Leave torpor >> Rescue a vampire from torpor >> Diablerize a vampire in torpor >> > >How about rescuing or diablerizing different vampires during the same turn? Or >do the items basically get "crossed off" the above list after you take those >specific actions during a turn? You can, for instance, rescue a vampire, then freak drive, then diablerise a vampire, then use Force of Will to bleed whilst tapped. You cannot do anything on that list more than once and take it to resolution (whether blocked or successful) with the same vampire in the same turn. -- James Coupe PGP Key: 0x5D623D5D And if it's all right, I'd kind've like to be your lover EBD690ECD7A1F 'Cause when you're with me I can't help but be B457CA213D7E6 So desperately, uncontrollably happy 68C3695D623D5D

The Lasombra wrote: > > "Talonz51" <Talo...@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:3bc61042.159683621@news... > > > > > Does strength/hand damage effect strikes that do damage but dont > > specify that they are hand strikes? > > No. Correct. Modifications to strength only affect things that are based on strength. > > ie:corine marcon(+1 strength) and > > fleshcraft (strike:1 damage...) ? > > Fleshcraft does 1 damage. No more, no less. Correct. > > Would a tradiion:accounting (add 3 blood from bank to uncontrolled) > > and a GTU superior (add 3 blood etc) count as the same action, and > > thus fall under no repeat actions rule? [different action card, but > > same action it would seem] > > They are different actions. They have the same effect, but as they effect > is not one of the defined actions types, it is not prohibited by the > tournament rule of "No Repeat Actions". > > The only action types are listed in section 6.4.1 here: > > http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/veknRules.html > > Bleed > Hunt > Equip > Employ retainer > Recruit ally > Political action > Leave torpor > Rescue a vampire from torpor > Diablerize a vampire in torpor Correct. The No Repeat Actions rule fully describes what is the same "type" of action. > > Is there no limit to the number of cardinals [like there is for > > justicars/clan] you can benedict into creation, just the cap limit? > > Just the capacity limit. > All of the Sabbat vampires in play with a capacity > of 7 or higher may be cardinals. Correct. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

"Kevin M." wrote: > > "The Lasombra" <thela...@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:5773b50d0599d335017...@mygate.mailgate.org... > > The only action types are listed in section 6.4.1 here: > > > > http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/veknRules.html > > > > Bleed > > Hunt > > Equip > > Employ retainer > > Recruit ally > > Political action > > Leave torpor > > Rescue a vampire from torpor > > Diablerize a vampire in torpor > > > > How about rescuing or diablerizing different vampires during the same turn? Or > do the items basically get "crossed off" the above list after you take those > specific actions during a turn? Per the text of the NRA rule linked by Lasombra above. "Diablerize Igo" is the same type (diablerize) as "Diablerize Lucita". [ quoted text not captured ]