? re: clans?

When is a brujah not a brujah? Do card affects vs a clan type also affect its sabaat countertype? Or are the brujah antitribu (for example) considered a seperate clan? ie: this vampire gets +1 bleed versus brujah or the like. While were at it, are the anti-clan cards (gangrel atavism, malkavian dementia, etc) still requiring a vampire of that clan in play by the player to use them? This appears to have changed with certain sabaat versions in the pc decks, but the question remains about the older camarilla versions. T

> > When is a brujah not a brujah? > > Do card affects vs a clan type also affect its sabaat countertype? Or > are the brujah antitribu (for example) considered a seperate clan? They are considered to be a separate clan. There are currently no "bloodline specific" cards, just clan specific. (though, maybe there should be.) > ie: this vampire gets +1 bleed versus brujah or the like. Rigby doesn't care, no. > While were at it, are the anti-clan cards (gangrel atavism, malkavian > dementia, etc) still requiring a vampire of that clan in play by the > player to use them? This appears to have changed with certain sabaat > versions in the pc decks, but the question remains about the older > camarilla versions. Those are, as a whole, V:TES misprints, not reprints. If the Jyhad version didn't require it and the V:TES version magically did, it was a misprint (except for Blood Rage, that DOES require Thaumaturgy, not Forti-tood). -- Pat Ricochet Soul Jar'rn Fool of Atlanta

On Fri, 09 Feb 2001 17:31:57 -0500, Pat Ricochet <sp...@socrates.gatech.edu> wrote: > > Those are, as a whole, V:TES misprints, not reprints. If the Jyhad >version didn't require it and the V:TES version magically did, it was a >misprint (except for Blood Rage, that DOES require Thaumaturgy, not >Forti-tood). > How exactly could i confirm this? T

Talo...@hotmail.com wrote: > Pat Ricochet <sp...@socrates.gatech.edu> wrote: > > Those are, as a whole, V:TES misprints, not reprints. If the > > Jyhad version didn't require it and the V:TES version magically did, > > it was a misprint (except for Blood Rage, that DOES require > > Thaumaturgy, notForti-tood). > > > > How exactly could i confirm this? Check the online errata and official card texts at the White Wolf web site (linked in my .sig below). -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) VTES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/ Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/

> Pat Ricochet <sp...@socrates.gatech.edu> wrote in message > news:B6A9DA0C.2798%sp...@socrates.gatech.edu... > > > > Do card affects vs a clan type also affect its sabaat countertype? Or > > > are the brujah antitribu (for example) considered a seperate clan? > > > > They are considered to be a separate clan. There are currently no > > "bloodline specific" cards, just clan specific. (though, maybe there > should > > be.) > > Now we are getting somewhere... This idea truly needs to be explored! Any > ideas people? Would Pander be considered the Caitiff equivalent even though > Caitiff are clanless? > > Crossing of Paths > Action > 1 Pool > > The acting vampire may enter combat > with a vampire of opposite bloodline > as a +1 stealth D action. The acting > vampire gets an optional maneuver and > +1 strength during this combat. Only > one Crossing of Paths may be played > each turn. > > > Comments? > > oAFLORD > aka > Thomas Kuster > VEKN Prince of Caledon