US Nationals Day 1

Day 1 was a draft (3 Third Ed, 2 SoC). Jared Strait limped into the finals with a 1 GW, 4 VP finish after the two preliminary rounds (tied for 5th with another 1 and4, but ahead on Tournament points). And then went on to sweep the final table (starting with his prey, Shane Strait). The other finalists: David Buerger (2 and 8 in the preliminaries) Eric Chiang (1 and 5) Mark Loughman (1 and 5) Shane Strait (1 and 5) We had 28 players participate. Four others garnered a GW in the prelims: Radd Kulseth 1 4 Jeff Thompson 1 3 Mike Ooi 1 3 David Bowles 1 3 Kevin Adrich 0 2 Mike Zavislak 0 2 Chris Schaut 0 2 Robert Dubock 0 1.5 Neil Paananen 0 1.5 Kurt Kupp 0 1 Joshua Duffin 0 1 Matt Strehlow 0 1 Daniel Decker 0 1 Jeff Turner 0 1 Todd Perez 0 1 David Sisson 0 0 Jon Becht 0 0 Jason Sloan 0 0 Arthur Wright 0 0 C J 0 0 Megan Bailey 0 0 Steph Turner 0 0 Jim Hardesty 0 0 Results here will be added to the results of day 2 (which starts in two hours) to determine the US Champion.

>Day 1 was a draft (3 Third Ed, 2 SoC). Day 2 was a standard constructed affair, with 31 players, but only 30 at a time. (One player played the first two rounds and dropped, and a replacement played only in the third round.) The finalists: Mark Loughman (Carna/Neighbor John permacept/Smiling Jack) with something better than 2 GW and 8 VPs going into the finals bleeding Jeffrey Thompson (Obtenebration gets out the Vote) with 2 GW and 8 VPs going into the finals bleeding David Berger (Arika and friends stealth vote) with something better than 2 GW and 8 VPs going into the finals bleeding Jared Strait (potence rush with dominate minions for a few Deflections and Conditionings) with 1 GW and 5 or 6 VPs bleeding Mike Ooi (Ambrogino Giovanni merged bleed with block denial, Ex Nihilo, Soul Gem, and Virolax Facility) with 1 GW and 6.5 VPs All players had a shot at the US Championships, as it would have been their fourth game win in the weekend, and finals tournament wins count more for the tiebreakers, with the exception of Mike Ooi, who was 1 GW behind the curve. Other tiebreakers would have to have been used should he have won the finals table to determine the US Champion. Mike, Jeff, and Jared shared the first round table on this day, so they were all painfully aware of what the others could do and how they should sit. Jared and Mike had no choice, and Jeff sat as Jared's predator. David sat as Jared's predator, and then Mark sat as Mike's prey (as he had also played against Jared in an earlier round.) Mark had the perfect opening crypt, and soon had Carna + Bowl of Convergence + Sniper Rifle + Leather Jacket along with Neigherbor John, Frondator, Cohn Rose, and Martin Frankel. Jared managed to oust Mike, and David was able to oust Jared. Mark ousted both Jeff and David for the win. Mark Loughman got 3 VP + GW in the finals, showing clearly why he is in the V:TES Hall of Fame. All hail the new US Champion, Mark Loughman of Newark, Ohio!

"The Lasombra" wrote : > All hail the new US Champion, Mark Loughman of Newark, Ohio! Yes, I hail Mark! Big congratulations my friend! You're a great Prince, a great friend, and a great champion. Jay Kristoff, V:EKN Prince of Columbus Ohio

On Aug 19, 3:26 pm, The Lasombra <TheLasom...@hotmail.com> wrote: > All hail the new US Champion, Mark Loughman of Newark, Ohio! Awesome! Well done, Mark! John Eno

[snip] > > All hail the new US Champion, Mark Loughman of Newark, Ohio! > Yeah Mark, big congrats from over the pond. Booyakasha!!! Erol

The Lasombra wrote: > All hail the new US Champion, Mark Loughman of Newark, Ohio! I eagerly await his 5 page essay on how good he is being posted to this group. ;) -- salem (replace 'hotmail' with 'yahoo' to email)

On 19 Aug, 20:26, The Lasombra <TheLasom...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Mark Loughman (Carna/Neighbor John permacept/Smiling Jack) with > something better than 2 GW and 8 VPs going into the finals Cool, awesome result Mark - very much like to see a list for this deck! a Jack deck is a tricky thing to drive victory in the finals of a big event IMO. > bleeding > > Jeffrey Thompson (Obtenebration gets out the Vote) with 2 GW and 8 VPs > going into the finals Quite like to see this list too! > bleeding > > David Berger (Arika and friends stealth vote) with something better > than 2 GW and 8 VPs going into the finals Not so keen to see this one :) > bleeding > > Jared Strait (potence rush with dominate minions for a few Deflections > and Conditionings) with 1 GW and 5 or 6 VPs Or this one, not that its not a fun deck to play and play against! > bleeding > > Mike Ooi (Ambrogino Giovanni merged bleed with block denial, Ex > Nihilo, Soul Gem, and Virolax Facility) with 1 GW and 6.5 VPs Cool deck :O) like to see the list! > All players had a shot at the US Championships, as it would have been > their fourth game win in the weekend, and finals tournament wins count > more for the tiebreakers, with the exception of Mike Ooi, who was 1 GW > behind the curve. Other tiebreakers would have to have been used > should he have won the finals table to determine the US Champion. > > Mike, Jeff, and Jared shared the first round table on this day, so > they were all painfully aware of what the others could do and how they > should sit. > > Jared and Mike had no choice, and Jeff sat as Jared's predator. David > sat as Jared's predator, and then Mark sat as Mike's prey (as he had > also played against Jared in an earlier round.) > > Mark had the perfect opening crypt, and soon had Carna + Bowl of > Convergence + Sniper Rifle + Leather Jacket along with Neigherbor > John, Frondator, Cohn Rose, and Martin Frankel. > > Jared managed to oust Mike, and David was able to oust Jared. Mark > ousted both Jeff and David for the win. > > Mark Loughman got 3 VP + GW in the finals, showing clearly why he is > in the V:TES Hall of Fame. > > All hail the new US Champion, Mark Loughman of Newark, Ohio! Sounds like a lot of fun! Ant

The Lasombra wrote: > Jared and Mike had no choice, and Jeff sat as Jared's predator. David > sat as Jared's predator, and then Mark sat as Mike's prey (as he had > also played against Jared in an earlier round.) > > Mark had the perfect opening crypt, and soon had Carna + Bowl of > Convergence + Sniper Rifle + Leather Jacket along with Neigherbor > John, Frondator, Cohn Rose, and Martin Frankel. > > Jared managed to oust Mike, and David was able to oust Jared. Mark > ousted both Jeff and David for the win. As an aside, the first two ousts were by Fame -- Jeff was ousted on Mark's Fame and then Mike was ousted by Jared's Fame. The next Fame from Jared went to Mark, but didn't secure an oust. As another aside, the finals did not go to time. Of the 18 preliminary round games, five went to time (and none went to time full -- always after at least one oust).

On Aug 19, 12:26 pm, The Lasombra <TheLasom...@hotmail.com> wrote: > >Day 1 was a draft (3 Third Ed, 2 SoC). > > Day 2 was a standard constructed affair, with 31 players, but only 30 > at a time. (One player played the first two rounds and dropped, and a > replacement played only in the third round.) > > The finalists: > > Mark Loughman (Carna/Neighbor John permacept/Smiling Jack) with > something better than 2 GW and 8 VPs going into the finals > > bleeding > > Jeffrey Thompson (Obtenebration gets out the Vote) with 2 GW and 8 VPs > going into the finals > > bleeding > > David Berger (Arika and friends stealth vote) with something better > than 2 GW and 8 VPs going into the finals > > bleeding > > Jared Strait (potence rush with dominate minions for a few Deflections > and Conditionings) with 1 GW and 5 or 6 VPs Let me say again for the record that Jared Strait is my V:TES hero! Cripes. He shows up at GenCon year after year, apparently hardly playing much at all in the interim, and just wins and wins. Different decks, different deck styles, etc. Sheesh. > Mark Loughman got 3 VP + GW in the finals, showing clearly why he is > in the V:TES Hall of Fame. > > All hail the new US Champion, Mark Loughman of Newark, Ohio! Congrats Mark! Way to go! -Robert

In article <1187621695....@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, Robert Goudie <rob...@vtesinla.org> wrote: > Let me say again for the record that Jared Strait is my V:TES hero! > Cripes. He shows up at GenCon year after year, apparently hardly > playing much at all in the interim, and just wins and wins. Different > decks, different deck styles, etc. Sheesh. And let me say that I am impressed, as when I show up at big tournaments with potence rush with some dominate for a few Conditionings and Deflections, I get my ass kicked... Peter D Bakija pd...@lightlink.com http://www.lightlink.com/pdb6/vtes.html

[ quoted text not captured ] > Ant- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Thanks guys. Here's the decklist. Teenage Witch Crypt: Carna, Princess Witch x4 Valois Sang, the Watcher Neighbor John x2 Cohn Rose Frondator Maldavis Martin Franckel x2 Arcane Library Blood Doll x2 Chantry Direct Intervention Dreams of the Sphinx x2 Fame Powerbase Montreal Rack Rotschreck Smiling Jack x4 Govern the Unaligned x6 Magic of the Smith x3 .44 Magnum Bowl of Convergence Heart of Nizchetus Ivory Bow Leather Jacket x2 Sniper Rifle Carlton Van Wyk Conditioning x4 Mirrorwalk x4 Aura Reading x2 Apportation x4 Burst of Sunlight x2 Theft of Vitae x6 Deflection x7 Eagle's Sight x4 Forced Awakening x7 Melange x3 My Enemy's Enemy x4 On the Qui Vive x3 Precognition Spirit's Touch x3 Wake With Evening's Freshness x3

Congratulations, Mark! Are you going to the NAC? - Ben Peal

[ quoted text not captured ] I will. I look forward to seeing you there!

On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 04:19:33 -0700, Anthony Coleman wrote: >> Jeffrey Thompson (Obtenebration gets out the Vote) with 2 GW and 8 VPs >> going into the finals >Quite like to see this list too! http://www.thelasombra.com/decks/bring_out_the_vote.htm Deck Name : Obtenebration brings out the vote Author : The Lasombra Crypt [13 vampires] Capacity min: 7 max: 10 average: 9.31 ------------------------------------------------------------ 2x Bruce de Guy 10 AUS DOM FOR OBT cardinal !Ventrue:4 2x Marcus Vitel 10 DOM FOR OBF OBT PRE prince Ventrue:3 2x Luca Italicus 10 DOM FOR NEC OBT POT tha archbishop Lasombra:4 2x Melinda Galbraith 10 AUS CEL DOM POT PRE obt cardinal Lasombra:4 2x Antón de Concepción 9 ANI DOM OBT POT aus archbishop Lasombra:4 2x Giangaleazzo, The Traitor 8 OBT POT PRE dom prince Lasombra:4 1x Omme Enberbenight 7 MYT OBT cel dom priscus Kiasyd:4 Library [90 cards] ------------------------------------------------------------ Action Modifier [24] 1x Blanket of Night 2x Freak Drive 2x Private Audience 3x Seduction 3x Shadow Play 2x Shroud of Absence 3x Shroud of Night 3x Tenebrous Form 5x Voter Captivation Ally [1] 1x Mylan Horseed (Goblin) Combat [3] 2x Arms of the Abyss 1x Shadow Body Event [1] 1x Break the Code Master [19] 2x Dreams of the Sphinx 1x Elysian Fields 1x Fame 2x Information Highway 7x Minion Tap 1x Pentex Subversion 1x Power Structure 4x Wash Political Action [20] 1x Anarchist Uprising 1x Ancient Influence 4x Banishment 2x Consanguineous Boon 2x Domain Challenge 8x Kine Resources Contested 1x Political Stranglehold 1x Reins of Power Reaction [22] 10x Deflection 4x Delaying Tactics 4x Obedience 4x Wake with Evening's Freshness

"Loughman" <ma...@mentaladventures.com> wrote in message news:1187646062....@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com... [ quoted text not captured ] Congrats, Mark!! Well done! - Pat

The Lasombra <TheLa...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > http://www.thelasombra.com/decks/bring_out_the_vote.htm > > Deck Name : Obtenebration brings out the vote > Author : The Lasombra > Crypt [13 vampires] Capacity min: 7 max: 10 average: 9.31 > ------------------------------------------------------------ > 2x Bruce de Guy 10 AUS DOM FOR OBT cardinal !Ventrue:4 > 2x Marcus Vitel 10 DOM FOR OBF OBT PRE prince Ventrue:3 > 2x Luca Italicus 10 DOM FOR NEC OBT POT tha archbishop Lasombra:4 > 2x Melinda Galbraith 10 AUS CEL DOM POT PRE obt cardinal Lasombra:4 > 2x Antón de Concepción 9 ANI DOM OBT POT aus archbishop Lasombra:4 > 2x Giangaleazzo, The Traitor 8 OBT POT PRE dom prince Lasombra:4 > 1x Omme Enberbenight 7 MYT OBT cel dom priscus Kiasyd:4 Why 13, exactly? How is that beneficial to you? > Library [90 cards] > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Action Modifier [24] > 1x Blanket of Night > 3x Seduction > 3x Shadow Play > 2x Shroud of Absence > 3x Shroud of Night > 3x Tenebrous Form Nice mix of stealth cards. I like it! Why not 1-2x more Shroud of Absence, since it is so ridiculously good? > 2x Freak Drive > 2x Private Audience > 5x Voter Captivation > > Ally [1] > 1x Mylan Horseed (Goblin) > > Combat [3] > 2x Arms of the Abyss > 1x Shadow Body Did you find these, along with the Obedience, to be enough to save you? Seems very low, especially seeing that you aren't playing a Zaire River Ferry, which just seems to go into every fattie Lasombra deck, and not even 1-2x Majesty for all your presence guys. And no suprise 1x Entombment? > Event [1] > 1x Break the Code > > Master [19] > 2x Dreams of the Sphinx > 1x Elysian Fields > 1x Fame > 2x Information Highway > 7x Minion Tap > 1x Pentex Subversion > 1x Power Structure > 4x Wash I like the 4x Wash very, very much! :) > Political Action [20] > 1x Anarchist Uprising No Ancillae Empowerment, too? ;) > 4x Banishment > 2x Consanguineous Boon > 2x Domain Challenge > 8x Kine Resources Contested > 1x Ancient Influence > 1x Political Stranglehold > 1x Reins of Power Except for those last 3, an excellent choice of political cards! I am a bit suprised about the missing Cardinal Benediction, but I suppose you have enough votes already... > Reaction [22] > 10x Deflection > 4x Obedience > 4x Delaying Tactics ...but if that is so, why do you find these to be necessary? > 4x Wake with Evening's Freshness No WWEF/OTQV mix, huh? I could also see fitting in a Far Mastery and a Charming Lobby, but definately an excellent deck! Kevin M., Prince of Las Vegas "Know your enemy, and know yourself; in one-thousand battles you shall never be in peril." -- Sun Tzu, *The Art of War* "Contentment... Complacency... Catastrophe!" -- Joseph Chevalier

On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 19:44:31 -0700, "Kevin M." wrote: >> Deck Name : Obtenebration brings out the vote >> Author : The Lasombra >> Crypt [13 vampires] Capacity min: 7 max: 10 average: 9.31 >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> 2x Bruce de Guy 10 AUS DOM FOR OBT cardinal !Ventrue:4 >> 2x Marcus Vitel 10 DOM FOR OBF OBT PRE prince Ventrue:3 >> 2x Luca Italicus 10 DOM FOR NEC OBT POT tha archbishop Lasombra:4 >> 2x Melinda Galbraith 10 AUS CEL DOM POT PRE obt cardinal Lasombra:4 >> 2x Antón de Concepción 9 ANI DOM OBT POT aus archbishop Lasombra:4 >> 2x Giangaleazzo, The Traitor 8 OBT POT PRE dom prince Lasombra:4 >> 1x Omme Enberbenight 7 MYT OBT cel dom priscus Kiasyd:4 >Why 13, exactly? How is that beneficial to you? None of the big ones needed to only appear once, and the priscus title is too likely to be contested so it didn't need to be repeated. >> Library [90 cards] >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> Action Modifier [24] >> 1x Blanket of Night >> 3x Seduction >> 3x Shadow Play >> 2x Shroud of Absence >> 3x Shroud of Night >> 3x Tenebrous Form >Nice mix of stealth cards. I like it! Why not 1-2x more Shroud of >Absence, since it is so ridiculously good? I didn't take any other decks apart to make this one, so I had to make do with what was already loose. >> 2x Freak Drive >> 2x Private Audience >> 5x Voter Captivation >> Ally [1] >> 1x Mylan Horseed (Goblin) >> Combat [3] >> 2x Arms of the Abyss >> 1x Shadow Body >Did you find these, along with the Obedience, to be enough to save you? On the two tables where I got 4 VPs, yes. When Jared was my predator and Mark was my predator, no. >Seems very low, especially seeing that you aren't playing a Zaire River >Ferry, which just seems to go into every fattie Lasombra deck, and not >even 1-2x Majesty for all your presence guys. And no suprise 1x >Entombment? Originally there were 0 combat cards. Didn't seem to make much difference. >> Event [1] >> 1x Break the Code Never saw Imbued all day, though there were rumors of 1 such deck. >> Master [19] >> 2x Dreams of the Sphinx >> 1x Elysian Fields >> 1x Fame >> 2x Information Highway >> 7x Minion Tap >> 1x Pentex Subversion >> 1x Power Structure >> 4x Wash >I like the 4x Wash very, very much! :) So do I. >> Political Action [20] >> 1x Anarchist Uprising >No Ancillae Empowerment, too? ;) Nope. Anarchist did seal up at least 2 victory points during the day though. >> 4x Banishment >> 2x Consanguineous Boon >> 2x Domain Challenge >> 8x Kine Resources Contested >> 1x Ancient Influence >> 1x Political Stranglehold >> 1x Reins of Power >Except for those last 3, an excellent choice of political cards! I gained 14 pool in one turn during the third round with Ancient Influence and Political Stranglehold. They are a must include. I should have dropped the Consanguineous Boons. I intended to use them for grand-preys/grand-predators but I never had them in hand when it was necessary. > I am a bit suprised about the missing Cardinal Benediction, but I suppose > you have enough votes already... On my turn, yes, I tended to have enough votes. >> Reaction [22] >> 10x Deflection >> 4x Obedience >> 4x Delaying Tactics >...but if that is so, why do you find these to be necessary? Presence vote from other people. I stopped a number of votes from my predator in the second game (2-3) that would have been passed over me with Bewitching Oration. Didn't get to use them in the first or final rounds. >> 4x Wake with Evening's Freshness >No WWEF/OTQV mix, huh? Replacing cards when it isn't my turn really doesn't matter. >I could also see fitting in a Far Mastery and a Charming Lobby, but >definately an excellent deck! Thanks. Carpe noctem. Lasombra http://www.TheLasombra.com Your best online source for information about V:TES. Now also featuring individual card sales and sales of booster and starter box displays.

[ quoted text not captured ] Any chance you will post the results as you did for day 1? I would love to know what the decks that did better than 2 GW + 8 VPs had going into the final round.

[ quoted text not captured ] As soon as I have a list of pre-qualified players. > I would love to know what the decks that did better than 2 GW + 8 VPs > had going into the final round. Singular. Only 1 deck had better than 2 and 8 going into the final. Mark's.

LSJ wrote: > The Lasombra wrote: >> On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:19:50 GMT, LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote: >> >>>> Jared and Mike had no choice, and Jeff sat as Jared's predator. David >>>> sat as Jared's predator, and then Mark sat as Mike's prey (as he had >>>> also played against Jared in an earlier round.) >> >>>> Mark had the perfect opening crypt, and soon had Carna + Bowl of >>>> Convergence + Sniper Rifle + Leather Jacket along with Neigherbor >>>> John, Frondator, Cohn Rose, and Martin Frankel. >> >>>> Jared managed to oust Mike, and David was able to oust Jared. Mark >>>> ousted both Jeff and David for the win. >> >>> As an aside, the first two ousts were by Fame -- Jeff was ousted on >>> Mark's Fame and then Mike was ousted by Jared's Fame. The next Fame >>> from Jared went to Mark, but didn't secure an oust. >> >>> As another aside, the finals did not go to time. Of the 18 >>> preliminary round games, five went to time (and none went to time >>> full -- always after at least one oust). >> >> Any chance you will post the results as you did for day 1? > > As soon as I have a list of pre-qualified players. Which, except for "Greatlakes Purdue Lafayette qualifier" of 30-JUN-07, I now have. So, discounting the missing data, five of the 31 players were previously qualified. That leaves 7 new qualifying spots. Previously-qualified players are identified with (*) in the list. The seven new qualifiers are: David Buerger Jared Strait Mike Ooi Jonathan Scherer Matt Strehlow Kurt Kopp Megan Bailey Finalists were, in order of placement into the finals: 1 * Mark Loughman (3/8.5) 2 David Buerger (2/8) 144TP 3 * Jeff Thompson (2/8) 138TP 4 Mike Ooi (1/6.5) 5 Jared Strait (1/6) With, as previously reported, Mark winning the final with 3 VPs and David and Jared getting 1 VP each. Other players: Jonathan Scherer 1 5.5 Matt Strehlow 1 5.5 Kurt Kopp 1 5 Megan Bailey 1 4 * Shane Strait 1 3.5 David Bowles 1 3.5 Radd Kulseth 1 2.5 * Josh Duffin 0 3.5 Kevin Aldricht 0 2.5 Neil Paananen 0 1.5 Burt Sheldon 0 1.5 Josh Marquardt 0 1.5 Daniel Decker 0 1 Stephen Wylie 0 1 Jim Hardesty 0 1 Jason Sloan 0 1 Jacob Williams 0 0.5 Jacob Baugh 0 0.5 Todd Perez 0 0 Ray Babbit 0 0 Tor Swanson 0 0 Robert Dubock 0 0 David Idoux 0 0 * Wayne Chin 0 0 Brad Ward 0 0 Alan Mazur 0 0 [ quoted text not captured ]

On Aug 23, 9:43 am, LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote: > LSJ wrote: > > The Lasombra wrote: > >> On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:19:50 GMT, LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote: > > >>>> Jared and Mike had no choice, and Jeff sat as Jared's predator. David > >>>> sat as Jared's predator, and then Mark sat as Mike's prey (as he had > >>>> also played against Jared in an earlier round.) > > >>>> Mark had the perfect opening crypt, and soon had Carna + Bowl of > >>>> Convergence + Sniper Rifle + Leather Jacket along with Neigherbor > >>>> John, Frondator, Cohn Rose, and Martin Frankel. > > >>>> Jared managed to oust Mike, and David was able to oust Jared. Mark > >>>> ousted both Jeff and David for the win. > > >>> As an aside, the first two ousts were by Fame -- Jeff was ousted on > >>> Mark's Fame and then Mike was ousted by Jared's Fame. The next Fame > >>> from Jared went to Mark, but didn't secure an oust. > > >>> As another aside, the finals did not go to time. Of the 18 > >>> preliminary round games, five went to time (and none went to time > >>> full -- always after at least one oust). > > >> Any chance you will post the results as you did for day 1? > > > As soon as I have a list of pre-qualified players. > > Which, except for "Greatlakes Purdue Lafayette qualifier" of 30-JUN-07, I now have. I'll pester the organizer to send a copy to you. The Qualifier qualified 4 people: myself, Ankur Gupta, Boris Zaretsky (the winner), and one other person (who wasn't planning to attend the NAC but didn't decline the qualification ahead of time) whose name escapes my memory at present. -John Flournoy

[ quoted text not captured ] If your report is correct, it won't matter then -- none of the players you list played in the tournament I ran. If the unnamed person did, it wouldn't change the number of qualifiers. So it really only matters if the unnamed person is one of the seven people I listed as new qualifiers. Which seems unlikely. Thanks for the info.