LSJ: Employed by

In a post from 2000... http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/aa20ff7b52d0e02d ...you explain that a vampire with Depravity is prohibited from employing retainers, i.e. taking the action to put them in play, but that they can still *have* and get the benefit of retainers that they had before Depravity or gained later. Ghoul Escort and Resplendant Protector have been rephrased in recent printings to clear up confusion about whether they grant their benefits to the minions that employed them or to the minons they are on. But there are other cards that use the "employed by" phrase that seem problematic. Mask Empathy says "Burn a retainer employed by the opposing minion (usable at close range)." Does that mean you cannot burn retainers that were employed by another minion then moved to the opposing minion? Does it mean you can burn Charnas off a vampire not in the combat if he was employed by the opposing minion? Or should Mask Empathy more properly read "Burn a retainer on the opposing minion"? Stanislava says "Retainers employed by a minion opposing Stanislava lose their abilities until the end of combat..." Does that mean retainers that were employed by another minion then moved to the opposing minion do not lose their abilities during combat with Stanislava? Or should Stanislava more properly read "Retainers on a minion opposing Stanislava"? Thanks for clearing this up.

Emmit Svenson wrote: > Mask Empathy says "Burn a retainer employed by the opposing minion > (usable at close range)." Does that mean you cannot burn retainers that > were employed by another minion then moved to the opposing minion? Does No. "employed by" means "on" in that sense. > it mean you can burn Charnas off a vampire not in the combat if he was > employed by the opposing minion? Or should Mask Empathy more properly > read "Burn a retainer on the opposing minion"? Both phrasings are equivalent. > Stanislava says "Retainers employed by a minion opposing Stanislava > lose their abilities until the end of combat..." Does that mean > retainers that were employed by another minion then moved to the > opposing minion do not lose their abilities during combat with > Stanislava? Or should Stanislava more properly read "Retainers on a > minion opposing Stanislava"? Equivalent -- they mean exactly the same thing. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/