My friends and I all agreed to purchase 1 starter and 2 Boosters of Jyhad
each, and limit ourselves to this amount so we wouldn't get into the sort
of escalation we did with MTG.
In my starter, I got only 15 Vampires - in place of one of them was the
political card Reversal of Fortune (Call a vote - if it passes then
direction of play reverses, but Prey is still to the left.)
Perhaps I'm missing something obvious, but other than using this card for
an extra vote in a different political action, I can find no use for this
card! All it seems to do is give my Predator two successive turns in
which to beat on me.
Since we are only trading amongst ourselves, I must either find a use for
this card or find some way to make it attractive to someone else. So
far, nobody else in our group can see any use for it either. Is there
someone out there wiser, more devious or more able to see the obvious
than I who can help?
Gratitude;
Shane Travis | "I may not be perfect,
sht123@herald.usask.ca | but parts of me are excellent."
Saskatoon, Saskatchewan | - Ashleigh Brilliant
Shane Hamish William Travis <sht123@herald.usask.ca> wrote:
>Perhaps I'm missing something obvious, but other than using this card for
>an extra vote in a different political action, I can find no use for this
>card! All it seems to do is give my Predator two successive turns in
>which to beat on me.
Maybe give your Predator a chance to survive for a while. If they've
been left open to their predator for some reason, and you'd really rather
not deal with their predator quite just yet, reverse the flow of play,
and your predator will get a chance to defend themselves since they'll
be untapping and taking their turn first.
Tom Wylie rec.games.deckmaster Network Representative for
aahz@hal.com Wizards of the Coast, Inc.
Shane Hamish William Travis (sht123@herald.usask.ca) wrote:
: My friends and I all agreed to purchase 1 starter and 2 Boosters of Jyhad
: each, and limit ourselves to this amount so we wouldn't get into the sort
: of escalation we did with MTG. : In my starter, I got only 15 Vampires - in place of one of them was the
: political card Reversal of Fortune (Call a vote - if it passes then
: direction of play reverses, but Prey is still to the left.) : Perhaps I'm missing something obvious, but other than using this card for
: an extra vote in a different political action, I can find no use for this
: card! All it seems to do is give my Predator two successive turns in
: which to beat on me.
...One you cannot use the card as a vote in another political action, the
vote on the card only applies to the vote the card is used for. Much like
the +1 stealth on many action cards can only be used to grant stealth for
the action the card calls for....To get +1 stealth to, say a minion's
hunt or to add to some other action, you must use one of the cards which
states simply +1 stealth or grant +1 stealth.
As to what use you may have for Reversal of fortune...It doesn't have
much power in a three-person game, however in games with four or more
the use becomes appearant....If you use the card successfully and change
the direction of play with your last minion's action, you have effectively
blocked your prey from taking his turn until all the other methusalah go
again. A hunter of one player and the prey of that player if working together
using Reversals of Fortune could effectively shut out the player in
between them by reversing play on their respective turns, thus never allowing
the Methusalah between them have an action....Hmmmm I suppose this COULD
be used in a three-player game...so long as you don't mind your friend
wanting to kill you when the game is over...:)
lpoindex@starbase.neosoft.com
In a previous article, sht123@herald.usask.ca (Shane Hamish William Travis) says:
>My friends and I all agreed to purchase 1 starter and 2 Boosters of Jyhad
>each, and limit ourselves to this amount so we wouldn't get into the sort
>of escalation we did with MTG.
>
>In my starter, I got only 15 Vampires - in place of one of them was the
>political card Reversal of Fortune (Call a vote - if it passes then
>direction of play reverses, but Prey is still to the left.)
>
>Perhaps I'm missing something obvious, but other than using this card for
>an extra vote in a different political action, I can find no use for this
>card! All it seems to do is give my Predator two successive turns in
>which to beat on me.
>
>Since we are only trading amongst ourselves, I must either find a use for
>this card or find some way to make it attractive to someone else. So
>far, nobody else in our group can see any use for it either. Is there
>someone out there wiser, more devious or more able to see the obvious
>than I who can help?
>
Well, the card would allow everyone else, EXCEPT your prey, to take
another turn. So if your prey is causing a lot of trouble for the other
players, they may all agree to wallop your prey a second time before the
prey has a chance to act.
Does this help?
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sht123@herald.usask.ca (Shane Hamish William Travis) writes:
> My friends and I all agreed to purchase 1 starter and 2 Boosters of Jyhad
> each, and limit ourselves to this amount so we wouldn't get into the sort
> of escalation we did with MTG.
>
> In my starter, I got only 15 Vampires - in place of one of them was the
> political card Reversal of Fortune (Call a vote - if it passes then
> direction of play reverses, but Prey is still to the left.)
>
> Perhaps I'm missing something obvious, but other than using this card for
> an extra vote in a different political action, I can find no use for this
> card! All it seems to do is give my Predator two successive turns in
> which to beat on me.
>
Yes in the short term if the vote passes your predator will get an extra
attack at you but it will leave your prey attaking his before you attack
him so he won't know exactly what you will keep in reserve for your
predator. Also if he blocks his Minions will remain tapped ubtil after
his prey has playedThus giving direct actions (those that can be played
by anyone) a better chance to succeed. I know how I would use that card
but it is difficult to explain it right. BTW as far as I know all the
starter decks only have a max of 15 vammpires. Since the minimum to play
is 12 you have three you could remove I know locally noone has had more
than 6 come into play.
Just my 1/2 cents worth
raven@lakes.trenton.sc.us
The guy before me wrote:
...One you cannot use the card as a vote in another political action,
[End quote]
Where you been? You may give up your vote cards that say "Worth 1 vote" in
_any_ polital action as a vote. But that is all it counts for, a vote,
nothing more.
If someone called a vote for some card, and I had a hand full of 6 other
political vote cards that read "worth 1 vote", I may burn them ALL as 6
votes.
Unless of course someone completely rewrote the rules in the past few days,
in which it would also terribly make the game rather dull for politics.
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boardman@cs.wisc.edu
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Knight Hawk (raven@lakes.trenton.sc.us) wrote:
: sht123@herald.usask.ca (Shane Hamish William Travis) writes:: > Perhaps I'm missing something obvious, but other than using this card for
: > an extra vote in a different political action, I can find no use for this
: > card! All it seems to do is give my Predator two successive turns in
: > which to beat on me.
:
: Yes in the short term if the vote passes your predator will get an extra
: attack at you but it will leave your prey attacking his before you attack
: him so he won't know exactly what you will keep in reserve for your
: predator.
Thing is, the above described stricture also applies to _ME_. Since
direction is reversed, I too (as do all others) now go before my Predator
and will suffer the consequences - not only that, but my predator gets to
take advantage of the situation long before I do.
It seems to me that this card would make people play much more
defensively, knowing that their Predator has the next turn. Everything
is exactly the same as if he went before you (any Vampires you tap will
still be tapped in either case) but knowing that he goes _right_away_
somehow seems more threatening than knowing he will come after you after
several others have gone first.... More a psychological trick than
anything, and still not seemingly worth taking up the space in your hand
or the deck.
: BTW as far as I know all the starter decks only have a max of 15 vampires.
Two friends opened their starters in front of me, and each got 16
Vampires in theirs. Heard about someone only getting 13 and 3 'special'
Political Vote cards.
Shane Travis | "I may not be perfect,
sht123@herald.usask.ca | but parts of me are excellent."
Saskatoon, Saskatchewan | - Ashleigh Brilliant
Tom Wylie (aahz@hal.COM) wrote:
: Shane Hamish William Travis <sht123@herald.usask.ca> wrote:
: >Perhaps I'm missing something obvious, but other than using this card for
: >an extra vote in a different political action, I can find no use for this
: >card! All it seems to do is give my Predator two successive turns in
: >which to beat on me. : Maybe give your Predator a chance to survive for a while. If they've
: been left open to their predator for some reason, and you'd really rather
: not deal with their predator quite just yet, reverse the flow of play,
: and your predator will get a chance to defend themselves since they'll
: be untapping and taking their turn first.
If all his cards are tapped, then it's a high probability speculation
that many of them got that way by attacking/blocking my Vampires or
generally messing me up somehow.
I just hope he's not an ingrate.... :-)
Shane Travis | "I may not be perfect,
sht123@herald.usask.ca | but parts of me are excellent."
Saskatoon, Saskatchewan | - Ashleigh Brilliant
lpoindex@starbase.neosoft.com (Leo Poindexter) writes:
>Shane Hamish William Travis (sht123@herald.usask.ca) wrote:
>: My friends and I all agreed to purchase 1 starter and 2 Boosters of Jyhad
>: each, and limit ourselves to this amount so we wouldn't get into the sort
>: of escalation we did with MTG. >: In my starter, I got only 15 Vampires - in place of one of them was the
>: political card Reversal of Fortune (Call a vote - if it passes then
>: direction of play reverses, but Prey is still to the left.) >: Perhaps I'm missing something obvious, but other than using this card for
>: an extra vote in a different political action, I can find no use for this
>: card! All it seems to do is give my Predator two successive turns in
>: which to beat on me. >...One you cannot use the card as a vote in another political action, the
>vote on the card only applies to the vote the card is used for. Much like
>the +1 stealth on many action cards can only be used to grant stealth for
>the action the card calls for....To get +1 stealth to, say a minion's
>hunt or to add to some other action, you must use one of the cards which
>states simply +1 stealth or grant +1 stealth.
Sorry Leo, you're wrong. The political cards may be burned for the votes
on them duirng any political action. The text on the cards, in that case,
is ignored.
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Re: Re: JYHAD: What good is Rev. of Fortune?
> ...One you cannot use the card as a vote in another political action, the
> vote on the card only applies to the vote the card is used for. Much like
> the +1 stealth on many action cards can only be used to grant stealth for
You're wrong there. The rules state that you can burn political cards for an
extra vote.
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