New Gangrel Deck for Critique

A while ago I noticed Shadow of the Beast, and started trading for RPG launchers for a City Gangrel Obf-Cel-Pro deck. This deck, unfortunately, did not work very well, due to a lack of good-sized vampires with the proper disciplines. Sigh. So I shelved the idea, and I made this new deck based off Gangrel Fortitude-Protean RPG launchers. However, it doesn't quite work yet. Can you tell me how to improve it without losing the RPG's? Bear in mind that it doesn't have to be tournament-quality... just damn fun-deck quality. Persistence Crypt: Giuliano Vincenzi 2 Sadie 2 Ricki Van Demsy 3 Chandler Hungerford 3 Daliyah 4 Camille Devereaux 5 Badger 6 Pieter 6 Gitane St. Claire 7 Genevieve 10 Wynn 10 Stanislava 11 Library: Fortitude Protean Mob Connections Haven Uncovered 3 Zoo HG Campground HG Sudden Reversal Vast Wealth Heidelberg Castle Backways Blood Doll RPG Launcher 2 Sengir Dagger Dog Pack Gypsies Black Spiral Buddy Shadow of the Beast 3 Wolf Claws 4 Bone Spur 2 Form of the Ghost 2 Dissolution Earth Control 3 Superior Mettle 4 Trap 6 Bum's Rush 4 Ambush 2 Unflinching Persistence 3 Indomitability 2 Rolling with the Punches Undead Persistence 4 -Nathan Harada How much damage can one vampire do in one round?

On Sun, 20 Apr 1997 18:20:22 -0400, Nathan Harada <i...@hula.net> wrote: >Persistence > >Crypt: >Giuliano Vincenzi 2 >Sadie 2 >Ricki Van Demsy 3 >Chandler Hungerford 3 >Daliyah 4 >Camille Devereaux 5 >Badger 6 >Pieter 6 >Gitane St. Claire 7 >Genevieve 10 >Wynn 10 >Stanislava 11 > >Library: >Fortitude >Protean >Mob Connections >Haven Uncovered 3 >Zoo HG >Campground HG >Sudden Reversal >-Nathan Harada >How much damage can one vampire do in one round? My first decision would be, with only 2 Sabbat Ganbrel in my crypt, is taking up space with the Campground HG worth it. Same goes for the Black Spiral Buddy. It you use a House-Rule that Antitribu and normal clans are the same for resource conditions (dont laugh, I've seen it done) then by all means, keep them. I was in a bit of a hurry this morning, so I didn't really get to look at the rest of the deck. In response to you last question, I ask "How many votes can a Vampire get in a single action?"

L. Scott Johnson wrote: > > Car...@airmail.com wrote: > > In response to you last question, I ask "How many votes can a Vampire > > get in a single action?" > > Use Arika calling a Ventrue Justicar vote: > > 4(IC) +2(Legendary) +4(BO) +1(Ventrue) +X(Awe) > > Where X is (2*Capacity)+1, and capacity is arbitrary, based on the > number of cards in the game, which in turn is based on the number > of Meths in the game, given that all unaccounted-for cards are > Camarilla Vitae Slaves except for a number of Hostile Takeovers > equal to the number of Meths minus one. Oops - also need Heidelburg to transfer all of those Slaves to Arika once they're in play. (Or a Clan Impersonation to make Arika a Lasombra until she gets all of them, or whatever). -- L. Scott Johnson (vte...@regency.wizards.com) Official VtES Net.Rep for Wizards of the Coast. (*) - Subject to review by Rules Team

Car...@airmail.com wrote: > In response to you last question, I ask "How many votes can a Vampire > get in a single action?" Use Arika calling a Ventrue Justicar vote: 4(IC) +2(Legendary) +4(BO) +1(Ventrue) +X(Awe) Where X is (2*Capacity)+1, and capacity is arbitrary, based on the number of cards in the game, which in turn is based on the number of Meths in the game, given that all unaccounted-for cards are Camarilla Vitae Slaves except for a number of Hostile Takeovers equal to the number of Meths minus one. =X+11 (Miscellaneous 1-vote-gain cards, e.g. Ely:Versailles, have not been included, since doing so would decrease X by 2 for net loss of 1 vote.) [ quoted text not captured ]

What about that card that lets you burn pool for votes (Business Pressure?)? Considering that at any time you could have an arbitrary amount of pool (though I've never seen much more than 40)... James -- James E. Hamblin je...@cornell.edu "There is a greater darkness than the one we fight. It is the darkness of the soul that has lost its way. ... Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope, the death of dreams. Against this peril we can never surrender." -- G'Kar, Babylon 5: "Z'ha'dum"

Nathan Harada wrote: > > A while ago I noticed Shadow of the Beast, and started trading for > RPG launchers for a City Gangrel Obf-Cel-Pro deck. This deck, > unfortunately, did not work very well, due to a lack of good-sized > vampires with the proper disciplines. > Sigh. > So I shelved the idea, and I made this new deck based off > Gangrel Fortitude-Protean RPG launchers. However, it doesn't quite > work yet. Can you tell me how to improve it without losing the > RPG's? Bear in mind that it doesn't have to be tournament-quality... > just damn fun-deck quality. > > Persistence > > Crypt: > Giuliano Vincenzi 2 > Sadie 2 > Ricki Van Demsy 3 > Chandler Hungerford 3 > Daliyah 4 > Camille Devereaux 5 > Badger 6 > Pieter 6 > Gitane St. Claire 7 > Genevieve 10 > Wynn 10 > Stanislava 11 (Snip) For your OBF CEL PRO Deck: How about an Assamite-Gangrel Antitribu Deck? Through in a couple of Protean Masters for your Assamite and center your Combats on Celerity with the Threat of a final Wolf-Clawed blow. Use some cheap effective Weapons (Ivory Bow, Meat Cleaver) Use Shadow of the Beast only for your RPG-Launchers, and some Claws for that funny Ashes to Ashes song... :) This may be your only Protean Cards. Use Hidden Lurker to get into Combat (you can redraw your card!) and Disguised Weapon to tell your opponent before combat that he will be surprised... (play with RPG) This may be your only Obfuscate Cards. Put in Ruthor's Hand for Pieter, Samantha, Al-Ashrad or Kalinda. Your Prey will love you. :) Perhaps one Walk of Flame (Well, you're right, Kalinda DON'T have Protean... :) Crypt: Name Clan Cap Disciplines Special Blaise Gangrel Anti 7 CEL obf +1 hand damage Samantha Gangrel Anti 10 CEL OBF PRO hand damage is aggavated, +1 intercept vs. Lasombra, has tha to use Ruthor's Hand, Bishop Pieter Gangrel Anti 6 OBF PRO has tha to use Ruthor's Hand Sadie Gangrel Anti 2 pro Chandler Gangrel 3 PRO +1 intercept vs. Gangrel Al-Ashrad Assamite 9 CEL obf +1 bleed, may burn Camarilla location as (d)-action, has THA to use Ruthor's Hand, cannot diablerize Kalinda Assamite 6 CEL OBF has tha to use Ruthor's Hand, cannot diablerize Abd al-Rashid Assamite 5 CEL OBF cannot diablerize Kanya Assamite 2 cel cannot diablerize Sarah Brujah Anti 3 CEL -1 stealth on each (d)-action vs. each Meth. who controls a ready Bishop or Arcbishop Nik Caitiff 1 cel All Brujah get +1 intercept against him Huang Pander 1 pro All Gangrel Antitribu may attack her with a (d)-action ------------------------------ 12 Vampires Total Cost: 55, mean: 4.58 The library is something for you. You may go through your discipline cards to find what makes fun. Celerity, Obfuscate, Protean, Thaumaturgy, it is all there... Michael Beer, Dortmund, Germany.

James Hamblin wrote: > > What about that card that lets you burn pool for votes (Business > Pressure?)? The question was how many votes could a vampire get, not how many could a methuselah get. Business pressure's votes come only from the methuselah. [ quoted text not captured ]

<snip snip snip!> Wow, I never thought of giving Gangrel the RPG, I always used it on Nosferatu, because I like to play them with lots of maneuvers, so they often have IR goggles on, use an aid from bats first round, press with the bat, then pull out the disguised RPG (thats not a weed sprayer! **** KABLOUIE!)Or Trmere. cause they have to stay at range, and have to press anyway, and they can get stuff with the ever handy Magic of the Smith (local hardware store). Hmmn, Gangrel have all the maneuvers and presses to pull it off, and fortitude to stay in combat. Basilia has normal obf doesnt she? chuckle, snicker, snort (bahahahahahahaha) :) Thanks for the idea, James B. 'Orange Elephants coming from all directions confuses the spoor'