Can you use vote cards to push your own votes?
Somebody wrote:
(I apologize for losing the writer's name. It's an important point, and
deserves credit.)
>Deck: 60 cards.
>12 Effective Managements
>48 Kine Resources Contesteds>All 6 Caitiffs, 6 of the 2 pointers (doesn't matter which).
>1st turn: 1-4 vamps emerge... average 2.
>2nd turn: call 2 KRCs, 8 damage in total. Another 3 vamps emerge on
average.
>3rd turn: call 5 KRCs, 20 damage in total, prey should be almost dead.
>Anotherone more vampire per turn on average (Effective managements).>Vote against me? I push the vote with cards...
The rules actually state (17.1, 1st paragraph):
"Additional political cards can be used by any of the OTHER [emphasis
mine] Methuselehs for votes."
Like everybody else, I assumed this was a misprint and that you could push
your own votes. I even have a deck that relies on pushed Praxis Seizures.
However, it would seem the rules might have been written with exactly the
above kind of possibility in mind and the sentence was not altered or
FAQ'd in the updated rules.
Official ruling? Are the rules literally correct or is everbody's
interpretation correct and the above crock legal?
Curt Adams (curt...@aol.com)
curt...@aol.com (CurtAdams) writes:
>Can you use vote cards to push your own votes?>The rules actually state (17.1, 1st paragraph):>"Additional political cards can be used by any of the OTHER [emphasis
>mine] Methuselehs for votes.">Like everybody else, I assumed this was a misprint and that you could push
>your own votes. I even have a deck that relies on pushed Praxis Seizures.
> However, it would seem the rules might have been written with exactly the
>above kind of possibility in mind and the sentence was not altered or
>FAQ'd in the updated rules.>Official ruling? Are the rules literally correct or is everbody's
>interpretation correct and the above crock legal?
If WotC handles this the same way they handled (D) symbols, Master Out-of-Turn,
and Reaction Cards (ie., rules is rules), then the Meth calling the vote
would not be able to burn additional PAs for more votes.
However, I believe Tom has already answered this topic with a logical
interpretation, rather than a rules-literal one. But I failed to find
the actual reference, so I may be attributing my own interpretation to Tom.
The Rules outline I posted (and e-mailed to Tom for comments) stated that
any Meth could use PAs, and Tom did not "correct" that point, so one could
assume that it is correct.
>>"Additional political cards can be used by any of the OTHER [emphasis
>>mine] Methuselehs for votes.">>Like everybody else, I assumed this was a misprint and that you could
push
>>your own votes. I even have a deck that relies on pushed Praxis
Seizures.
>> However, it would seem the rules might have been written with exactly
the
>>above kind of possibility in mind and the sentence was not altered or
>>FAQ'd in the updated rules.>>Official ruling? Are the rules literally correct or is everbody's
>>interpretation correct and the above crock legal?>If WotC handles this the same way they handled (D) symbols, Master
>Out-of-Turn,
>and Reaction Cards (ie., rules is rules), then the Meth calling the vote
>would not be able to burn additional PAs for more votes.>However, I believe Tom has already answered this topic with a logical
>interpretation, rather than a rules-literal one. But I failed to find
>the actual reference, so I may be attributing my own interpretation to
Tom.
The deck posted (basically nothing but Kine Resources contested) showed
that it is possible to make a very good deck for a two-player game with
nothing but votes and little vampires. It creates a good game balance
reason for not pushing votes, and the careful wording makes me suspicious.
Curt Adams (curt...@aol.com)