[LSJ] Free States Rant

Text: [...] In this referendum, titles are worth 1 less vote each (even in the Prisci sub-referendum), [...] Does the parenthetical mean: (a) During a Free States Rant, the Prisci block is worth 2 votes, not 3, or (b) All Prisci cast 1 fewer vote during the Prisci sub-vote; the Prisci abstain unless Gratiano is out, and the Prisci block is worth 3 votes as normal. (c) Something else. thanks, gomi -- Yes, I believe but I'd rather not pray What I believe in I'd rather not say, baby

In message <9g0vua$ej2$1...@nntp1.ba.best.com>, Gomi no Sensei <go...@best.com> writes >[...] In this referendum, titles are worth 1 less vote each (even in the >Prisci sub-referendum), [...] > >Does the parenthetical mean: > >(a) During a Free States Rant, the Prisci block is worth 2 votes, not 3 No, because the prisci block is not a title. >, or >(b) All Prisci cast 1 fewer vote during the Prisci sub-vote; the Prisci >abstain unless Gratiano is out, and the Prisci block is worth 3 votes >as normal. This is correct, so far as I can tell. -- James Coupe PGP Key: 0x5D623D5D "You reinstall Dial-Up Networking. The Elf screams and becomes EBD690ECD7A1F an icon. *** CONGRATULATIONS! *** You completed the BT Internet B457CA213D7E6 Helpdesk training course in 15 out of a possible 9000 moves." 68C3695D623D5D

James Coupe wrote: > > In message <9g0vua$ej2$1...@nntp1.ba.best.com>, Gomi no Sensei > <go...@best.com> writes > >[...] In this referendum, titles are worth 1 less vote each (even in the > >Prisci sub-referendum), [...] > > > >Does the parenthetical mean: > > > >(a) During a Free States Rant, the Prisci block is worth 2 votes, not 3 > > No, because the prisci block is not a title. > > >, or > >(b) All Prisci cast 1 fewer vote during the Prisci sub-vote; the Prisci > >abstain unless Gratiano is out, and the Prisci block is worth 3 votes > >as normal. > > This is correct, so far as I can tell. Correct. The title "Priscus" is worth 1 vote in the Priscus sub-referendum. It is worth 1 less vote in that sub-referendum during the Free States Rant. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:<3B2417E9...@white-wolf.com>... > James Coupe wrote: > > > > In message <9g0vua$ej2$1...@nntp1.ba.best.com>, Gomi no Sensei > > <go...@best.com> writes > > >[...] In this referendum, titles are worth 1 less vote each (even in the > > >Prisci sub-referendum), [...] > > > > > >Does the parenthetical mean: > > > > > >(a) During a Free States Rant, the Prisci block is worth 2 votes, not 3 > > > > No, because the prisci block is not a title. > > > > >, or > > >(b) All Prisci cast 1 fewer vote during the Prisci sub-vote; the Prisci > > >abstain unless Gratiano is out, and the Prisci block is worth 3 votes > > >as normal. > > > > This is correct, so far as I can tell. > > Correct. The title "Priscus" is worth 1 vote in the Priscus > sub-referendum. > It is worth 1 less vote in that sub-referendum during the Free States > Rant. Just to make sure, the -1 vote for titled vampires does not effect guys that are printed with "2 votes" like the FoS? I just don't remember if 2 votes counts as a title or not.

In message <7ab27d37.01061...@posting.google.com>, Aaron <roans...@yahoo.com> writes >Just to make sure, the -1 vote for titled vampires does not effect >guys that are printed with "2 votes" like the FoS? I just don't >remember if 2 votes counts as a title or not. Vampires with innate votes *are* considered to have a title. "Some independent vampires may start with votes, as listed on card text. Treat these vampires as if they had titles of their own. " [6.3.4] [ quoted text not captured ]

Aaron wrote: > Just to make sure, the -1 vote for titled vampires does not effect > guys that are printed with "2 votes" like the FoS? I just don't > remember if 2 votes counts as a title or not. [6.3.4] Vampirirc Titles should clear that up. [ quoted text not captured ]

LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote: > James Coupe wrote: > > > > Gomi no Sensei <go...@best.com> writes > > >(b) All Prisci cast 1 fewer vote during the Prisci sub-vote; the Prisci > > >abstain unless Gratiano is out, and the Prisci block is worth 3 votes > > >as normal. > > > > This is correct, so far as I can tell. > > Correct. The title "Priscus" is worth 1 vote in the Priscus > sub-referendum. > It is worth 1 less vote in that sub-referendum during the Free States > Rant. Just curious - I don't mean to be annoying: How many votes does Genevieve have during a Free States Rant? (0 of each?) How many votes does a Regent have during a Free States Rant? (3?) - Dan

>Just curious - I don't mean to be annoying: > >How many votes does Genevieve have during a Free States Rant? >(0 of each?) > >How many votes does a Regent have during a Free States Rant? >(3?) Free States Rant Political Card - Worth 1 Vote Called by any Independent vampire at +1 stealth Allocate X points among one or more ready vampires, where X is half of the capacity of the acting vampire (rounded up). No more than 3 points can be allocated to a single vampire. Successful referendum means each vampire burns 1 blood for each point assigned. In this referendum, titles are worth 1 less vote each (even in the Prisci sub-referendum), and burning the edge for a vote is worth an additional vote. Note that FSR states that "titles are worth 1 less vote each," so it wouldn't affect Genevieve's special ability. Thus as a Priscus, Genevieve has 1 normal vote (and 1 - 1 = 0 prisci votes). The Regent card gives a title of Cardinal (and an additional vote which I'm guessing comes from the Regent card itself, not the title. LSJ?). So the Regent'ed vamp would get one less vote meaning he would have 3 votes. Halcyan 2

dhar...@san.rr.com (Dan Harting) wrote in message news:<366bfade.01070...@posting.google.com>... > LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote: > > James Coupe wrote: > > > > > > Gomi no Sensei <go...@best.com> writes > > > > >(b) All Prisci cast 1 fewer vote during the Prisci sub-vote; the Prisci > > > >abstain unless Gratiano is out, and the Prisci block is worth 3 votes > > > >as normal. > > > > > > This is correct, so far as I can tell. > > > > Correct. The title "Priscus" is worth 1 vote in the Priscus > > sub-referendum. > > It is worth 1 less vote in that sub-referendum during the Free States > > Rant. > > Just curious - I don't mean to be annoying: > > How many votes does Genevieve have during a Free States Rant? > (0 of each?) The title is worth 1 less. Nothing is said about the special ability. So she has 1 in the main referendum (special ability), and zero in the Prisci sub-referendum. > How many votes does a Regent have during a Free States Rant? > (3?) Yes. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to rulebook, card text, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/