Ruling on FAME & Resurection?

"Great," you all say, "another can o' worms..." Alright, if I give a vampire FAME And then that Vamp is sent to my ash heap Then I manage to resurrect him (Using one of many different ways with the Giovanni) Would the vampire keep FAME? For that matter would he also keep is disciplines (Added to him/her via a master discipline card)??? Neither are equipment or retainers And those are the only rules I can find (/No/ you can't keep retainers/equipment...) In regards to my question. The arguements being; "If Elvis/Jim Morrison/Kurt Cobain (etc.) came back, wouldn't THEY still be famous???" "If Elvis/Jim Morrison/Kurt Cobain (etc.) came back, wouldn't that be an obvious breach of the Masquerade???" "What if no one /knew/ they had died? In that case, NO, it wouldn't break the first tradition..." "Ah, I see." Comments, questions, current events???? Anyone? Beuler? Beuler? Fry? Anvil, self-declared prince of Peterborough. ;)

> "If Elvis/Jim Morrison/Kurt Cobain (etc.) came back, > wouldn't THEY still be famous???" Of course not. When the Giovanni raised Elvis, they tried to keep it a secret. ;) Chris Barnhart --- http://www.wulaw.wustl.edu/~tvbarnha/mr_pynk/

apr...@ivory.trentu.ca (ANVIL) writes: >"Great," you all say, "another can o' worms..." >Alright, if I give a vampire FAME >And then that Vamp is sent to my ash heap >Then I manage to resurrect him >(Using one of many different ways with the Giovanni) >Would the vampire keep FAME? >For that matter would he also keep is disciplines >(Added to him/her via a master discipline card)??? >Neither are equipment or retainers >And those are the only rules I can find >(/No/ you can't keep retainers/equipment...) >In regards to my question. All cards (Vampires and Library cards), upon enetering the Ash Heap, lose all knowledge of any other cards linked to them or played on them. If you pull one of these cards out of the Ash Heap, it will start afresh, just as if he had never been in play before. This applies to the good and the bad cards (a vampire returning from the Ash Heap would no longer be De-Evolved or Blood Bonded or have any Seduction counters, etc.) -- L. Scott Johnson (sjoh...@math.sc.edu) | Bad Track 0. http://www.math.sc.edu/~sjohnson | Why can't you be more Graphics Specialist and V:tES Rulemonger. | like Track 1?

ANVIL wrote: > Alright, if I give a vampire FAME > And then that Vamp is sent to my ash heap > Then I manage to resurrect him > (Using one of many different ways with the Giovanni) > Would the vampire keep FAME? > For that matter would he also keep is disciplines > (Added to him/her via a master discipline card)??? Nope--once a vamp hits the ash heap, and and all cards modifying the vampire are gone with it. Even if you bring the vampo back from the ash heap, all things that were originally on it do not come back. > "If Elvis/Jim Morrison/Kurt Cobain (etc.) came back, > wouldn't THEY still be famous???" Yeah, but those guys aren't cards. :) -- >>> Shawn F. Carnes Game Designer and Developer, Wizards of the Coast, Inc WotC NetRep for rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad ************************************************************* "Which one of you claims to be the craziest? Which one the biggest loony? Who runs these card games? Who's the bull goose loony here?" --McMurphy, "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest"