[LSJ] Q: re Banishment and master skill cards

Hi, I am just a little confused about the effect that master cards etc have when they are on a banished vampire. Ok so Miranda banishes Beatrice with a dominate skill card and the rack on her. Q1. Can my vampires steal the rack off of her. Q2. Does the master skill card have an effect on her while she is in torpor. Ie is she considered a 5 cap or a 6 cap when the opposing meth tries to influence her back out. Q3. If an effect was to destroy all equipment in play would this destroy those items on a banished vampire. Appologies if these questions have already been address and thanks in advance. Mark

On 24 Aug 2003 18:40:57 -0700, lo...@rsbs.anu.edu.au (markvtes) scrawled: >Hi, > >I am just a little confused about the effect that master cards etc >have when they are on a banished vampire. > >Ok so Miranda banishes Beatrice with a dominate skill card and the >rack on her. > >Q1. Can my vampires steal the rack off of her. Yes. No. Sort of. They can't steal the Rack _off her_, as the Rack is not on her. The Rack goes in play, and chooses a Vampire. You could just steal the Rack though, as it never left play with the vampire. which leads to an interesting question: will the Rack still give it's blood to the Banished vampire? it says nothing about the target needing to be ready....although there is the whole 'needs to have explicit text to be able to effect uncontrolled vampires' thing.... >Q2. Does the master skill card have an effect on her while she is in >torpor. Ie is she considered a 5 cap or a 6 cap when the opposing >meth tries to influence her back out. Cards on banished vampires are out of play unless specific text says otherwise. >Q3. If an effect was to destroy all equipment in play would this >destroy those items on a banished vampire. nope. nor would unique equipment on a banished vampire be contested. >Appologies if these questions have already been address and thanks in >advance. you could have just asked me at our regular games. :) ps: remember banishment is younger vampires only now. ;) salem domain:canberra http://www.geocities.com/salem_christ.geo/vtes.htm

lo...@rsbs.anu.edu.au (markvtes) wrote in message news:<7e624de2.0308...@posting.google.com>... > Hi, > > I am just a little confused about the effect that master cards etc > have when they are on a banished vampire. > > Ok so Miranda banishes Beatrice with a dominate skill card and the > rack on her. > > Q1. Can my vampires steal the rack off of her. > The Rack is not "on" her. The Rack is in play, and "tasked" to a vampire who is no longer there. It can still be stolen. > Q2. Does the master skill card have an effect on her while she is in > torpor. Ie is she considered a 5 cap or a 6 cap when the opposing > meth tries to influence her back out. The master skill cards do not count until she is back in play. > > Q3. If an effect was to destroy all equipment in play would this > destroy those items on a banished vampire. > This one I'm less sure of. My guess would be that no, it does not destroy her equipment. But I'm only taking an educated guess. > Appologies if these questions have already been address and thanks in > advance. > > Mark -Legendre

salem wrote: > lo...@rsbs.anu.edu.au (markvtes) scrawled: >>Ok so Miranda banishes Beatrice with a dominate skill card and the >>rack on her. >> >>Q1. Can my vampires steal the rack off of her. > > Yes. No. Sort of. They can't steal the Rack _off her_, as the Rack is > not on her. The Rack goes in play, and chooses a Vampire. You could > just steal the Rack though, as it never left play with the vampire. Correct. > which leads to an interesting question: will the Rack still give it's > blood to the Banished vampire? it says nothing about the target > needing to be ready....although there is the whole 'needs to have > explicit text to be able to effect uncontrolled vampires' thing.... The latter applies in the absence of explicit text. Rack has no such explicit text. So it doesn't give "its" blood to the uncontrolled vampire. >>Q2. Does the master skill card have an effect on her while she is in >>torpor. Ie is she considered a 5 cap or a 6 cap when the opposing >>meth tries to influence her back out. > > Cards on banished vampires are out of play unless specific text says > otherwise. Correct. >>Q3. If an effect was to destroy all equipment in play would this >>destroy those items on a banished vampire. > > nope. nor would unique equipment on a banished vampire be contested. Correct. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

In article <3F49F646...@white-wolf.com>, LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote: >salem wrote: >> which leads to an interesting question: will the Rack still give it's >> blood to the Banished vampire? it says nothing about the target >> needing to be ready....although there is the whole 'needs to have >> explicit text to be able to effect uncontrolled vampires' thing.... > >The latter applies in the absence of explicit text. Rack has no such >explicit text. So it doesn't give "its" blood to the uncontrolled >vampire. And if the Banished vampire comes back into play, does he/she gets the benefits of the Rack again immediately? -- charles lechasseur - da...@novideospamtron.ca

On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 22:34:30 -0400, da...@novideospamtron.ca (Charles Lechasseur) scrawled: [ quoted text not captured ] maybe. I know if a vampire goes through the ash heap (burned and then possessed) then they are considered a whole new vampire and won't be the rack's target anymore. not sure about uncontrolled region, though. [ quoted text not captured ]

> you could have just asked me at our regular games. :) Yeah, just trying to fine tune the deck before then, besides KL and I play some nights and she refuses to read the rules herself but gets kinda anoyed if I ever get anything wrong. Mark

[ quoted text not captured ] Well, the Rack won't offer up missed blood, but at the next untap phase (if the vampire is controlled) he gets the benefit. Effects can "track" a vampire through banishment. [RTR 01-MAY-2000] [ quoted text not captured ]