LSJ: multiple cloaks ?

Can a single acting minion receive more than 1 superior cloak the gathering stealth from more than 1 other minion? That would seem to fly directly in the face of the 'cant play the same card twice' rule. T

In message <3adbefbd.43714018@news>, Talo...@hotmail.com writes > >Can a single acting minion receive more than 1 superior cloak the >gathering stealth from more than 1 other minion? Yes. >That would seem to fly directly in the face of the 'cant play the same >card twice' rule. One minion can't play the same action modifier twice on the same action. Cloak is being played by several other minions, 1 each. -- James Coupe PGP Key: 0x5D623D5D EBD690ECD7A1F What's the meaning when you speak with so much feeling? B457CA213D7E6 Is it over when you're sober? Is it junk? 68C3695D623D5D

James Coupe wrote: > > In message <3adbefbd.43714018@news>, Talo...@hotmail.com writes > > > >Can a single acting minion receive more than 1 superior cloak the > >gathering stealth from more than 1 other minion? > > Yes. > > >That would seem to fly directly in the face of the 'cant play the same > >card twice' rule. > > One minion can't play the same action modifier twice on the same action. > > Cloak is being played by several other minions, 1 each. Correct. See the rules on action modifiers [1.6.3.2] -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

On Mon, 16 Apr 2001 06:59:14 -0400, LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote: >James Coupe wrote: >> >> In message <3adbefbd.43714018@news>, Talo...@hotmail.com writes >> > >> >Can a single acting minion receive more than 1 superior cloak the >> >gathering stealth from more than 1 other minion? >> >> Yes. >> >> >That would seem to fly directly in the face of the 'cant play the same >> >card twice' rule. >> >> One minion can't play the same action modifier twice on the same action. >> >> Cloak is being played by several other minions, 1 each. > >Correct. See the rules on action modifiers [1.6.3.2] > I see that. My concern is, how is that any different from 1 minion playing the same card multiple times? So with 4 minions, each could play a cloak on 1 action, giving him +4 stealth, but the acting minion couldn't play cloak himself 4 times. Isnt this kind of grossly imbalanced towards mass cloak decks (and other 'non acting minion' play cards)? T

>I see that. My concern is, how is that any different from 1 minion >playing the same card multiple times? > >So with 4 minions, each could play a cloak on 1 action, giving him +4 >stealth, but the acting minion couldn't play cloak himself 4 times. > >Isnt this kind of grossly imbalanced towards mass cloak decks (and >other 'non acting minion' play cards)? Although I used to also think it was unbalanced, it's really not that bad. First of all, each of the non-acting Cloaking vampires needs to have OBF. So yeah, 4 minions could contribute +4 stealth to the action, but then you need 4 minions with superior obfuscate. In addition, you're wasting a lot of deck space with Cloaks. Cloak can be good and all in some cases, but if you have that much obfuscate, you might as well use Lost in Crowds (+2 stealth) or Forgotten Labyrinth (+3 if not bleeding). One Forgotten Labyrinth is just as good as 3 Cloaks. And with all those Cloaks, it might be pretty easy to get handjammed (esp. if no one blocks your actions). Halcyan 2

In message <3ade5f47.137818334@news>, Talo...@hotmail.com writes >I see that. My concern is, how is that any different from 1 minion >playing the same card multiple times? It requires multiple different available minions. [ quoted text not captured ]