Malkavian Antitribu, Grou 4, Capacity 6
dem vic AUS OBF
Sabbat: Drusilla may give you control of a ready Ventrue for the
remainder of the turn as a (D) action that costs 2 blood.
Not sure how useful her special will be, Ventrue aren't known for
staying untapped to block. Still, she can play Soul Decoration.
--
- Gregory Stuart Pettigrew
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It doesn't say anything about "untapped", just "ready".
So you can steal Arika (at a jillion stealth), diablerize with her,
and have her vote to burn herself in the blood hunt. That's pretty
cool.
I <jfeu...@eecs.tufts.edu> wrote:
> Gregory Stuart Pettigrew <gpett...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Malkavian Antitribu, Grou 4, Capacity 6
> > dem vic AUS OBF> > Sabbat: Drusilla may give you control of a ready Ventrue for the
> > remainder of the turn as a (D) action that costs 2 blood.> > Not sure how useful her special will be, Ventrue aren't known for
> > staying untapped to block. Still, she can play Soul Decoration.> It doesn't say anything about "untapped", just "ready".
Oops, ignore this. I understand what you mean now.. the coffee just had
not hit my brain yet before my fingers hit the "Post" button.
But still, Ventrue *do* tend to remain untapped when they have a !Malk
predator, to deflect...
>> Sabbat: Drusilla may give you control of a ready Ventrue for the
>> remainder of the turn as a (D) action that costs 2 blood.>>> Not sure how useful her special will be, Ventrue aren't known for
>> staying untapped to block. Still, she can play Soul Decoration.>
> It doesn't say anything about "untapped", just "ready".
>
> So you can steal Arika (at a jillion stealth), diablerize with her, and
> have her vote to burn herself in the blood hunt. That's pretty cool.
Assuming she's untapped when you get her, yes. It's unlikely that Ventrue
will be untapped.
Ankur
Jozxyqk <jfeu...@eecs.tufts.edu> wrote:
> But still, Ventrue *do* tend to remain untapped when they have a !Malk
> predator, to deflect...
Also (yet another self-followup), with AUS/DEM, the Malks have access to
a few ways to untap Dru's future-target Ventrue... Precognizant Mobility,
Babble during your predator's action,...
While you can't guarantee that you'll see a Ventrue on the table, you
probably can guarantee that they'll be untapped at some point when Dru
is ready to steal them...
a fun casual deck with her should obviously include some force of will,
daring the dawn etc. and sybils tongue to fetch them...of course it
sucks a little bit if no one has a ventrue but well can't have
everything.
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xcver wrote:
> a fun casual deck with her should obviously include some force of will,
> daring the dawn etc. and sybils tongue to fetch them...of course it
> sucks a little bit if no one has a ventrue but well can't have
> everything.
Sonja. Blue.
-John Flournoy
Merlin wrote:
> She can still play Force of Will if she's tapped. In fact, most Ventrue
> can.
'Cause you are packing a bunch of Force of Will in your Malkavian
Antitribu deck, just in case Drusilla runs into Ventrue?
-Peter
> Malkavian Antitribu, Grou 4, Capacity 6
> dem vic AUS OBF
>
> Sabbat: Drusilla may give you control of a ready Ventrue for the
> remainder of the turn as a (D) action that costs 2 blood.
This sucks! :-(
She should have superior Dementation and her ability is corner-case.
As said, it would be nice to steal an Arika (even tapped) for using her
4 votes. But then, would you build a malk vote deck assuming this? I
think not either.
The action is also a bit costy for a 6-cap.
If even she would have fortitude instead of vic that would change
things a bit for sure.
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Well Drusilla's special is everything there is in her? Surely not:
Vampires with aus, dem, obf and vic, or at least three of them in g3/4
(at least what the spoilers reveal):
Cyscek 10 dem (ANI) AUS OBF VIC +1 stealth
Harold Zettler 9 vic AUS DEM OBF +1 stealth
Drusilla Euphemia 6 dem vic AUS OBF Ventroo-stealing special
Ana Rita Montana 5 aus (dom) obf VIC
Luc 5 dem vic OBF diablerie+hand cycling special
Use 2 of them each, and fill the remaining 2 slots with Tupdogs, and
voila! there's a interesting, if a little heavy, crypt...
antero wrote:
> Luis Duarte - Powerbase:Lisbon wrote:
> > She should have superior Dementation and her ability is corner-case.> >(...)> > If even she would have fortitude instead of vic that would change
> > things a bit for sure.
>
> Well Drusilla's special is everything there is in her? Surely not:
As i start saying, she should have superior dementation and/or
fortitude instead of vic in a more useful and classic fashion (my
personal opinion).
Obviously her ability is not "everything there is in her" but it
represents quite a lot. And her's is corner-case.
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You need it spelled out for you, eh?
I was thinking that she'd do ok in a Malk + For Force of Will/Torpor
machine, with OBF for responsible bleeding and copious stealth. Maybe
some of her new friends will have for/FOR (Apache Jones and White Lily
do, checking the spoilers), and there is Jason, the World's Voice and
J. Oswald Hyde-White as well.
It's of course ludicrous to suggest dropping "a bunch of Force of Will
in [my] Malkavian Antitribu deck, just in case Drusilla runs into
Ventrue," but if the deck is built to play the cards anyway it's not
such a waste, and it could be beneficial. Hell, the deck could play FOR
skills (For Drusilla as well as the Deranged), Heidelberg, Derange, and
Malakavian Dementia (Parthenon probably a must as well, with that
arrangement) and just do it *more* often if the Ventrue show up.
I played with a guy the other day who has "an answer to Arika" in every
single deck he plays, due to the Arika deck that his friend plays
frequently. He'll like Drusilla, i think.
Merlin
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!Malks with Fortitude are useful, in a balls-to-the-wall fashion, but
!Malks with Vicissitude, while not as effective, are thematically
nicer, in "I can make you look like I feel" -way. And as most of my
games are casual ones, thematics matter (almost) as much as brutal
efficiency.
Personally I am just happy that the design team did not create another
Dolphin Black, or another multiacting stealth bleeder.
Merlin wrote:
> You need it spelled out for you, eh?
Nah. I wanted to see how you'd come up with some sort of deck that used
Drusilla *and* had Force of Will in it already, even though Drusilla
has no Fortitude :-)
> I was thinking that she'd do ok in a Malk + For Force of Will/Torpor
> machine, with OBF for responsible bleeding and copious stealth. Maybe
> some of her new friends will have for/FOR (Apache Jones and White Lily
> do, checking the spoilers), and there is Jason, the World's Voice and
> J. Oswald Hyde-White as well.
Fair enough. Seems sketchy. But ok.
> I played with a guy the other day who has "an answer to Arika" in every
> single deck he plays, due to the Arika deck that his friend plays
> frequently. He'll like Drusilla, i think.
Oh, sure. Drusilla probably will go in pretty much every deck that can
ever use her, just so she can steal Arika before Arika takes an action.
But it is unlikely that Arika will ever end up Force of Willing in that
situation :-)
-Peter
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There are a bunch of malks / !malks with fortitude, and some of them
are not half bad, like Anatole, or Artemis (Artemis has cel too so he
can forced march). I happen to have a really crazy malk/!malk with for
deck based around putting The Haunting on people and blocking them and
preventing damage. Can also Haunting, freak, then get a flak jacket or
bleed or whatever. This vamp could work well in such a deck... though
sadly Anatole is group 2 :(
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Right. It's not that Drusilla's special isn't cornercase; it is. Trying
to actually use it's going to require a serious amount of planning as
well as luck (to have a ventrue player on the right or left, not just
at the same table). Doing this without totally wasting deckspace is
difficult, but i think the sketch above fits the bill. It would be nice
to stick it to Arika in this way, but the chances of it happening are
pretty low.
Merlin
Merlin wrote:
> Right. It's not that Drusilla's special isn't cornercase; it is. Trying
> to actually use it's going to require a serious amount of planning as
> well as luck (to have a ventrue player on the right or left, not just
> at the same table). Doing this without totally wasting deckspace is
> difficult, but i think the sketch above fits the bill. It would be nice
> to stick it to Arika in this way, but the chances of it happening are
> pretty low.
While I'm not seeing the Force of Will happening, well, ever, I suspect
that in the long run, Drusilla will spend an awful lot of time
convincing Arika to go and diablerize some vampire and then be so
horrified at her own naughtiness that she votes in favor of the blood
hunt...
-Peter
In message <1156375840....@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, Dasein
<dasei...@hotmail.com> writes:
>pd...@lightlink.com wrote:
<snip - Drusilla, how to combo her with Fortitude decks.
>> 'Cause you are packing a bunch of Force of Will in your Malkavian
>> Antitribu deck, just in case Drusilla runs into Ventrue?>>There are a bunch of malks / !malks with fortitude, and some of them
>are not half bad, like Anatole, or Artemis (Artemis has cel too so he
>can forced march).>This vamp could work well in such a deck... though>sadly Anatole is group 2 :(
So is Artemis.
At the moment, Group 3 and Group 4 Malk/!Malk Fortitude is very sparsely
populated. It gets worse when you want to use, say, J. Ozwald (Gr3,
Malkavian, FOR) and find he doesn't have Dementation, for example.
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