rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

Eight disturbing questions

5 messages from 5 participants · 21 September 1998 – 22 September 1998
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rodrigo...@hotmail.com

Hi! Here are eight difficult questions in Jyhad game. If somebody know the answers, please help. 1- Can I play two or more of the same combat card in a single combat (two "Skin of Steel" or two "Flash", for example)? 2- Is the effect of "Increased Strength" cumulative? 3- May I atack TAPPED vampires as a D action (like in Haven Uncovered and Bum's Rush)? 4- May I play another master card if somebody burns my master card with a "Sudden Reversal"? 5- I'm attempting to bleed +1 with a "Social Charm" action. May I play "Mask of 1000 Faces" to change the acting minion to a minion who doesn't have "Presence"? 6- May I play "Mask of 1000 faces" when a minion is trying to leave torpor, to change the acting minion to a minion that is not in torpor? 7- What happens if, in the end of a combat, a minion plays "Cat's Guidance" and the opposing minion plays "Psiche"? 8- Can the strikes of "Entombment" and "Coma" be used at long range? Thanks! Rodrigo Russano -- ---(((Sangue)))--- -----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/rg_mkgrp.xp Create Your Own Free Member Forum

Lupus Australis

On Mon, 21 Sep 1998 rodrigo...@hotmail.com wrote: > Hi! Here are eight difficult questions in Jyhad game. If somebody know the > answers, please help. 1- Can I play two or more of the same combat card in a > single combat (two "Skin of Steel" or two "Flash", for example)? Yes > 2- Is the > effect of "Increased Strength" cumulative? Yes. 3- May I atack TAPPED vampires as > a D action (like in Haven Uncovered and Bum's Rush)? Of course. Why not? A successful "enter combat" action has nothing to do with the victem being tapped or untapped. If he was untapped before you attack him, he does not tap when you enter combat with him (unless, of course, he successfully blocks your enter combat action.) > 4- May I play another > master card if somebody burns my master card with a "Sudden Reversal"? No. > 5- I'm > attempting to bleed +1 with a "Social Charm" action. May I play "Mask of 1000 > Faces" to change the acting minion to a minion who doesn't have "Presence"? No....at least, not since the 6/23 rulings. > 6- May I play "Mask of 1000 faces" when a minion is trying to leave torpor, > to change the acting minion to a minion that is not in torpor? No. A vampire cannot mask any action that he could not have taken himself. Vampires who are not in torpor cannot take leave-torpor actions. > 7- What > happens if, in the end of a combat, a minion plays "Cat's Guidance" and the > opposing minion plays "Psiche"? Umm, exactly what the cards stay they do. Cat's Guidance untaps the blocker, then Psyche (played by either minion) causes a new combat to begin. ...and the blocker remains untapped. Entering combat never does anything to tap/untap minions. Taking actions taps you, and successfully blocking taps you. Since combat normally results from successfully blocking an action, both minions are normally tapped. But it is perfectly possible for both minions to be untapped. Example: I successfully bum's rush an untapped minion, play superior Majesty as my strike (untapping the attacker), then Psyche is played by either minion. > 8- Can the strikes of "Entombment" and "Coma" > be used at long range? Only if card text indicates that they can, as with the word "ranged". I do not have the card text in front of me, but I assume the answer is "no", or else you would not be asking. Lupus Australis ____ ____ \ \----/ / |()__()| __\ __ /__ / __\()/__ \ |/ \==/ \| | || |

mboh...@shout.net

In article <6u6jni$vh2$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, rodrigo...@hotmail.com wrote: > Hi! Here are eight difficult questions in Jyhad game. If somebody know the > answers, please help. I'll give you the short answers. > 1- Can I play two or more of the same combat card in a > single combat (two "Skin of Steel" or two "Flash", for example)? Yes. The only limit on playing multiple copies of a given card is by card text or in the case of action/reaction modifiers. > 2- Is the effect of "Increased Strength" cumulative? Yes. > 3- May I atack TAPPED vampires as a D action (like in Haven Uncovered and > Bum's Rush)? Yes. You'll note that Ambush only allows you to attack tapped vampires. > 4- May I play another master card if somebody burns my master card with a > "Sudden Reversal"? No, as it is still counted that you played a master card. > 5- I'm attempting to bleed +1 with a "Social Charm" action. May I play "Mask > of 1000 Faces" to change the acting minion to a minion who doesn't have > "Presence"? No, according to the newest rulings. You may wish to check out the RuleMonger web site: http://www.shout.net/mbohlman/rulemirror/rulemonger > 6- May I play "Mask of 1000 faces" when a minion is trying to leave torpor, > to change the acting minion to a minion that is not in torpor? No, according to the newer rulings. You may not Mask an action that the Masking vampire is incapable of taking. The Masking vampire in this case cannot attempt a leave torpor action because it is not in torpor. > 7- What > happens if, in the end of a combat, a minion plays "Cat's Guidance" and the > opposing minion plays "Psiche"? A new combat begins, and the minion playing Cat's Guidance will be untapped. Just being in combat does not tap you. > 8- Can the strikes of "Entombment" and "Coma" > be used at long range? Thanks! Rodrigo Russano No. Only strikes that do XR damage or specifically state usable at range have _an effect_ at long range. You can always play Entombment or Coma at long range, but it won't do anything because they are not ranged strikes. Mike -- Mike Bohlmann, MAIP - Prince of Urbana-Champaign Rules Survey - http://www.shout.net/~mbohlman/vekn/ [ quoted text not captured ]

LSJ

Correct on all points, Lupus. Thanks for the typing. Lupus Australis wrote: > > On Mon, 21 Sep 1998 rodrigo...@hotmail.com wrote: > > > Hi! Here are eight difficult questions in Jyhad game. If somebody know the > > answers, please help. 1- Can I play two or more of the same combat card in a > > single combat (two "Skin of Steel" or two "Flash", for example)? > > Yes > > > 2- Is the > > effect of "Increased Strength" cumulative? > > Yes. > > 3- May I atack TAPPED vampires as > > a D action (like in Haven Uncovered and Bum's Rush)? > > Of course. Why not? > > A successful "enter combat" action has nothing to do with the victem being > tapped or untapped. If he was untapped before you attack him, he does not > tap when you enter combat with him (unless, of course, he successfully > blocks your enter combat action.) > > > 4- May I play another > > master card if somebody burns my master card with a "Sudden Reversal"? > > No. > > > 5- I'm > > attempting to bleed +1 with a "Social Charm" action. May I play "Mask of 1000 > > Faces" to change the acting minion to a minion who doesn't have "Presence"? > > No....at least, not since the 6/23 rulings. > > > 6- May I play "Mask of 1000 faces" when a minion is trying to leave torpor, > > to change the acting minion to a minion that is not in torpor? > > No. A vampire cannot mask any action that he could not have taken > himself. Vampires who are not in torpor cannot take leave-torpor actions. > > > 7- What > > happens if, in the end of a combat, a minion plays "Cat's Guidance" and the > > opposing minion plays "Psiche"? > > Umm, exactly what the cards stay they do. Cat's Guidance untaps the > blocker, then Psyche (played by either minion) causes a new combat to > begin. > > ...and the blocker remains untapped. Entering combat never does anything > to tap/untap minions. Taking actions taps you, and successfully blocking > taps you. Since combat normally results from successfully blocking an > action, both minions are normally tapped. > > But it is perfectly possible for both minions to be untapped. Example: I > successfully bum's rush an untapped minion, play superior Majesty as my > strike (untapping the attacker), then Psyche is played by either minion. > > > 8- Can the strikes of "Entombment" and "Coma" > > be used at long range? > > Only if card text indicates that they can, as with the word "ranged". I > do not have the card text in front of me, but I assume the answer is "no", > or else you would not be asking. -- L. Scott Johnson (vte...@wizards.com) VTES Net.Rep for Wizards of the Coast. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and DCI (tournament) rules: http://www.wizards.com/VTES/VTES_Rules.html

James Coupe

In article <6u6jni$vh2$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, rodrigo...@hotmail.com writes >Hi! Here are eight difficult questions in Jyhad game. If somebody know the >answers, please help. >1- Can I play two or more of the same combat card in a >single combat (two "Skin of Steel" or two "Flash", for example)? Yes, unless the card says otherwise or the rules do. You can't play two Flashes one after the other to keep the range the same.. however, you could play a flash, have your opponent maneuver and then you play flash... but you can't cancel your own maneuvers. Also, with Skin of Steel, you can only prevent damage if there is damage to prevent, so you can't just play two to get rid of them on the same strike - btu you could play them in different rounds or on different strikes. >2- Is the >effect of "Increased Strength" cumulative? Yes. The + symbol is used in Jyhad to indicate cumulativeness of the figures. >3- May I atack TAPPED vampires as >a D action (like in Haven Uncovered and Bum's Rush)? Yes, assuming you use the cards named to do so. They simply say "Enter combat with a minion". They do not ask that the minion be untapped or tapped. Ambush, of course, requires the minion to be tapped. >4- May I play another >master card if somebody burns my master card with a "Sudden Reversal"? No. Playing your master card uses your 1 master phase action per turn. Suddenly reversing it doesn't give you that action back, it just prevents the card from doing what it should. You would need the Parthenon, Anson or Rumors of Gehenna to play another master card after a Sudden Reversal. >5- I'm >attempting to bleed +1 with a "Social Charm" action. May I play "Mask of 1000 >Faces" to change the acting minion to a minion who doesn't have "Presence"? No. Mask of 1000 Faces has errata to state that an action can only be taken over by a minion if he would have been legally able to be the acting minion given all the cards currently in use on the action - including action modifiers. >6- May I play "Mask of 1000 faces" when a minion is trying to leave torpor, >to change the acting minion to a minion that is not in torpor? No, as above, I believe. I cannot mask Wynn's rush action because I could not have started the action unless I was Wynn. Similarly, I could have left torpor if I wasn't in torpor so I doubt I could take the action over. >7- What >happens if, in the end of a combat, a minion plays "Cat's Guidance" and the >opposing minion plays "Psiche"? Cat's Guidance - untaps the vampire. Psyche - re-enters combat. What conflict do you see here? >8- Can the strikes of "Entombment" and "Coma" >be used at long range? No. for a strike to be usable at long range, it has to say so (see theft of vitae and compare with the Serpentis steal blood card which does not allow itself to be used at range) or be ranged damage (which is just another way of stating "may be used at long range, really"). -- James Coupe (Prince of Mercia) Change nospam to obeah to reply Vampire: Elder Kindred Network http://madnessnetwork.hexagon.net